Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 04:56:41 03/29/02
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On March 29, 2002 at 07:51:00, Uri Blass wrote: >On March 29, 2002 at 07:33:34, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>Dear CCC, >> >>This posting is dedicated to Thorsten in the first place being the absolute >>opponent against statistics. He might change opinions after this conclusive >>posting, Thorsten you will love this one! >> >>It's also dedicated to those who still believe that there is no performance >>increase/decrease when playing on different time controls. (Hi Christophe!) >> >>The below data is taken from the latest SSDF list and measures the differences >>between the used hardware, that is Athlon 1200 Mhz versus the AMD 450, roughly >>being a factor of 3. >> >> 2 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200 2714 34 -33 460 63% >>2619 +82 >> 13 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2632 30 -29 585 65% 2526 >> >> 3 Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2709 34 -33 447 63% >>2617 +55 >> 9 Deep Fritz 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2654 24 -23 901 62% 2568 >> >> 4 Gambit Tiger 2.0 256MB Athlon 1200 2708 37 -36 381 61% >>2626 +67 >> 11 Gambit Tiger 2.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2641 30 -29 592 66% 2522 >> >> 6 Junior 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2684 34 -33 436 58% >>2630 +53 >> 14 Junior 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2631 28 -26 717 67% 2505 >> >> 7 Rebel Century 4.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2680 36 -35 407 63% >>2587 +104 >> 21 Rebel Century 4.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2576 68 -70 105 46% 2606 >> >> 8 Shredder 5.32 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2662 32 -31 498 56% >>2619 +56 >> 17 Shredder 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2606 31 -30 545 62% 2521 >> >> 10 Gandalf 4.32h 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2649 34 -33 430 54% >>2621 +130 >> 32 Gandalf 4.32h 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2519 36 -36 378 53% 2499 >> >>Based on the above comparison the 2004 SSDF list running on 3600 Mhz hardware >>might looks as follows: >> >> 1. Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200 2714 + 82 = 2796 >> 2. Rebel Century 4.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2680 + 104 = 2784 >> 3. Gandalf 4.32h 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2649 + 130 = 2779 >> 4. Gambit Tiger 2.0 256MB Athlon 1200 2708 + 67 = 2777 >> 5. Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2709 + 55 = 2764 >> 6. Junior 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2684 + 53 = 2737 >> 7. Shredder 5.32 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2662 + 56 = 2718 >> >>I love this list :) >> >>Unknown entries because of no comparison material. >> >> 1 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2748 38 -35 395 68% 2616 >> 5 Shredder 6.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2706 37 -36 379 61% 2626 >> 16 Crafty 18.12/CB 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2613 33 -32 459 54% 2587 >> 23 Nimzo 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2554 24 -24 824 53% 2531 >> 29 Hiarcs 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2526 21 -22 1051 48% 2537 >> 34 Chessmaster 8000 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2517 44 -45 251 45% 2550 >> >>A couple of notes: >> >>1) Rebel Century 4 (AMD-450) has played to less games yet (105) to make it a >>reliable comparison. However the result (+104) doesn't surprise me, Rebel is >>tuned for longer time controls. > >I think that you assume here that the programs earn the same >speed from the better hardware. >This assumption is wrong. >I do not know about Rebel but I remember that gandalf earns more >speed from the better hardware. Ahem, but that's exactly what the issue is all about. In the Gandalf case, it goes from place 10 to 3. Ed >I think that it is necessary to calculate based on more data >the real advantage that programs get from the same speed >improvement, and in order to know it the data of the ssdf >is not enough and we need also data >about the speed improvement from AMD-450 to A1200 >for different programs. > >Uri
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