Author: Uri Blass
Date: 04:59:12 03/29/02
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On March 29, 2002 at 07:56:41, Ed Schröder wrote: >On March 29, 2002 at 07:51:00, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On March 29, 2002 at 07:33:34, Ed Schröder wrote: >> >>>Dear CCC, >>> >>>This posting is dedicated to Thorsten in the first place being the absolute >>>opponent against statistics. He might change opinions after this conclusive >>>posting, Thorsten you will love this one! >>> >>>It's also dedicated to those who still believe that there is no performance >>>increase/decrease when playing on different time controls. (Hi Christophe!) >>> >>>The below data is taken from the latest SSDF list and measures the differences >>>between the used hardware, that is Athlon 1200 Mhz versus the AMD 450, roughly >>>being a factor of 3. >>> >>> 2 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200 2714 34 -33 460 63% >>>2619 +82 >>> 13 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2632 30 -29 585 65% 2526 >>> >>> 3 Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2709 34 -33 447 63% >>>2617 +55 >>> 9 Deep Fritz 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2654 24 -23 901 62% 2568 >>> >>> 4 Gambit Tiger 2.0 256MB Athlon 1200 2708 37 -36 381 61% >>>2626 +67 >>> 11 Gambit Tiger 2.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2641 30 -29 592 66% 2522 >>> >>> 6 Junior 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2684 34 -33 436 58% >>>2630 +53 >>> 14 Junior 7.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2631 28 -26 717 67% 2505 >>> >>> 7 Rebel Century 4.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2680 36 -35 407 63% >>>2587 +104 >>> 21 Rebel Century 4.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2576 68 -70 105 46% 2606 >>> >>> 8 Shredder 5.32 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2662 32 -31 498 56% >>>2619 +56 >>> 17 Shredder 5.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2606 31 -30 545 62% 2521 >>> >>> 10 Gandalf 4.32h 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2649 34 -33 430 54% >>>2621 +130 >>> 32 Gandalf 4.32h 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2519 36 -36 378 53% 2499 >>> >>>Based on the above comparison the 2004 SSDF list running on 3600 Mhz hardware >>>might looks as follows: >>> >>> 1. Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200 2714 + 82 = 2796 >>> 2. Rebel Century 4.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2680 + 104 = 2784 >>> 3. Gandalf 4.32h 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2649 + 130 = 2779 >>> 4. Gambit Tiger 2.0 256MB Athlon 1200 2708 + 67 = 2777 >>> 5. Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2709 + 55 = 2764 >>> 6. Junior 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2684 + 53 = 2737 >>> 7. Shredder 5.32 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2662 + 56 = 2718 >>> >>>I love this list :) >>> >>>Unknown entries because of no comparison material. >>> >>> 1 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2748 38 -35 395 68% 2616 >>> 5 Shredder 6.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2706 37 -36 379 61% 2626 >>> 16 Crafty 18.12/CB 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2613 33 -32 459 54% 2587 >>> 23 Nimzo 8.0 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2554 24 -24 824 53% 2531 >>> 29 Hiarcs 7.32 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2526 21 -22 1051 48% 2537 >>> 34 Chessmaster 8000 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2517 44 -45 251 45% 2550 >>> >>>A couple of notes: >>> >>>1) Rebel Century 4 (AMD-450) has played to less games yet (105) to make it a >>>reliable comparison. However the result (+104) doesn't surprise me, Rebel is >>>tuned for longer time controls. >> >>I think that you assume here that the programs earn the same >>speed from the better hardware. > >>This assumption is wrong. >>I do not know about Rebel but I remember that gandalf earns more >>speed from the better hardware. > >Ahem, but that's exactly what the issue is all about. In the Gandalf case, it >goes from place 10 to 3. > >Ed > No I say more speed from better hardware that is different than better at longer time control. I mean that gandalf is 5 times faster on A1200 when Fritz may be only 3 times faster on A1200. Uri
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