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Subject: Re: Cool AMD 450 Mhz....

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:55:39 07/11/98

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On July 11, 1998 at 16:28:55, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On July 10, 1998 at 20:00:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>>So what do you think the PII/400's L2 cache runs at?
>>it runs at 200mhz is what it runs at.  But for my program, a PII/200 is
>>1/2 the speed of a PII/400, almost exactly.  But the PII/400 is not 2x the
>>P6/200 because the P6's cache is exactly as fast as the PII/400's cache.
>
>I'm glad you corrected your mistake (re: cache speed). No apology necessary, of
>course.
>
>Anyway, in an earlier post, you stated the following:
>processor     speed
>PPro/200      1
>PII/300       1.41
>PII/400       nowhere near 2
>
>Now if you're arguing that Crafty fits in the 512k L2 cache, and you agree that
>the PII/400 part is 33% faster than the PII/300 part, what's up with your
>commentary on the PII/400? It seems to me that 1.82 is very near 2.
>The only way I can think of to explain the table above is that Crafty is
>dependent on memory.
>

Here is what I said...

1.  the PII/300 is 1.41 times faster than the P6/200.  I attribute this to the
L2 cache on the P6/200 running at 200mhz, while the L2 cache on the PII/300 is
running at 150mhx.

2.  the PII/400 is twice as fast as a PII/200 running crafty.  It is pretty
uniform for any PII/XXX I have tried...  IE the PII/300 fits exactly between
the PII/200 and PII/400.

So I'm not sure what the confusion is about... I stated both of those clearly
I thought.

Now, on to Xeon.  I stated that the PII/450 xeon chip was 2.25X faster than the
P6/200.  That seems to be just what I'd expect.  The 2.25 seems to suggest that
I am running pretty well in cache, with only the occasional hash probes going to
memory...  otherwise the PII/450 ought to be even faster, because it is running
100mhz front-side while my P6/200 is running at 66mhz front-side.



>>I didn't find "a xeon".  I found a *lab full*.  Crafty's the latest addition
>>to specint98, which gets me lots of benchmark results I can't reveal until
>>the chips are released.
>
>*sigh*  I work at Intel. I'm on a Xeon validation project. You're not going to
>impress me with these statements.
>
>-Tom


you me either, Tom.  I had xeon data 8 months ago, but couldn't say anything
about it.  I also had 1ghz alpha data 8 months ago, and still do, but can't
say anything.  You aren't the only one with access to hot chips, neither am
I.



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