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Subject: Re: Cool AMD 450 Mhz....

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:30:10 07/12/98

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On July 12, 1998 at 10:03:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 11, 1998 at 22:56:36, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>Here's another review of what you said:
>>
>>>up to the PII/400, you begin to see a significant performance loss when compared
>>>to a P6/200, factoring in the 2x faster clock not giving anywhere near 2x the
>>>cpu performance.  Xeon will.  The 450 should clock in just as you'd expect with
>>
>>Now, I questioned the "not giving anywhere near 2x the cpu performance." Here's
>>your response:
>>
>>>>Remember, the PII L2 cache *always* runs at half the core clock speed.
>>>>If Crafty fit in L1/L2 cache, you *would* see a ~2x speedup.
>>>The PII doesn't always run at 1/2.  That's what the PII/Xeon is all about,
>>
>>Uhm, wrong.
>>

BTW, I should have added "if you'll check your own hardware spec sheet for
the xeon, you will find that the above one line is not "Uhm, wrong."  I don't
recall who wrote "Remember, the PII L2 cache *always* runs at half the core
clock speed."  but I added the next line which says "The PII doesn't always
run at 1/2, that's what the Xeon is all about."

So I'm not sure what you are "Uhm, wrong'ing" here.  The xeon certainly
runs cache at cpu speed, not cpu/2 speed.


>>I'd be happy to discuss the data you present to this forum, but not if your
>>story is going to get this screwed up.
>>
>>-Tom
>
>
>Then maybe you'd care to point out where the above is wrong.  It is quite
>clear:  the 400mhz PII chip would be twice as fast with crafty, *if* the
>PII's cache ran at 400mhz.  It doesn't.  It runs at 200mhz.  So I fail to
>see where you are confused about what I wrote and why.  But there is *no*
>misstatement in the above... simply read it in the context of the original
>post, comparing the P6/200 to the PII/400.  I reported 1.41X on the PII/300
>over the P6/200 and explained why I thought it was so.  Seems perfectly
>clear to me.
>
>So it's not *my* story that is screwed up.  Perhaps you didn't follow the
>discussion?
>
>I've been consistent from the beginning.  Your quote above supports that.



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