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Subject: Looking for Bobb....no...for a GOOD SUITE of POSITIONS

Author: Frankie Kam

Date: 18:06:27 03/31/02


Dear friends

I'm looking for good chess positions in which either white or
black played an excellent positional move. I'm actually collecting
a suite of positions (something like the Nolot suite).
I'm particularly interested in positions where even the top commercial
programs/engines can't solve or take a LONG time to solve.
If you have any to contribute do reply.

An example is move 11 of Game 5 of the 1972 WC.

[Event "Wch28"]
[Site "Reykjavik"]
[Date "1972.??.??"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Spassky, Boris"]
[Black "Fischer, Robert James"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E41"]
[WhiteElo "2660"]
[BlackElo "2785"]
[PlyCount "54"]
[EventDate "1972.??.??"]
[Source "ChessBase"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. e3 Nc6 6. Bd3 Bxc3+ 7. bxc3 d6 8. e4
e5 9. d5 Ne7 10. Nh4 h6 11. f4 Ng6 12. Nxg6 fxg6 13. fxe5 dxe5 14. Be3 b6 15.
O-O O-O 16. a4 a5 17. Rb1 Bd7 18. Rb2 Rb8 19. Rbf2 Qe7 20. Bc2 g5 21. Bd2 Qe8
22. Be1 Qg6 23. Qd3 Nh5 24. Rxf8+ Rxf8 25. Rxf8+ Kxf8 26. Bd1 Nf4 27. Qc2 Bxa4
0-1

11. ... Ng6!  Is a good positional move which allows black to snuff out
whites chances along the f-file. Does any chess engine choose Ng6?
I tried Shredder 6, Junior 7, Gambit Tiger 2.0 and none managed to choose
11. ... Ng6!


What does your PC and chess engine say?

Regards
Frankie



>Your best bet would be to go to www.icdchess.com and sign up for CCC.  There >are two forums there, one has computer chess and the other one is people >ranting at each other about politics and religion.  Don't get into the wrong >one by mistake.
>
>Some of the people there have suites that would be worthwhile, and you can >find many people who are interested in the same stuff that you like.
>
>Thank you,
>
>bruce
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Frankie Kam
>>To: brucemo@seanet.com
>>Cc: Mclanecxantia@aol.com
>>Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 7:40 PM
>>Subject: Nolot Suite
>>
>>
>>Dear Bruce
>>
>>I found your website very fascinating!!!
>>I liked the part where it mentioned that chess engines would take
>>months to solve a positionally brilliant move.
>>
>>http://www.seanet.com/~brucemo/index.htm
>>
>>
>>Where else can I get similar suites?
>>
>>The suites at your website were thoroughly annotated.
>>A must-have for any chess engine programmer to test his/her
>>engine on. A kind of bench-mark test to see how good a chess
>>engine is.
>>
>>Regards
>>Frankie Kam
>>Malaysia



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