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Subject: Re: 6-Piece Endgame Tablebases

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:20:02 04/01/02

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On April 01, 2002 at 01:16:22, pavel wrote:

>On April 01, 2002 at 01:01:12, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On March 31, 2002 at 18:41:24, Mike Hood wrote:
>>
>>>The normal figure thrown about for the size of a complete 6-piece egtb
>>>collection is "about a terabyte". Can we try to make this figure a bit more
>>>accurate? In the tablebase generation program the file size calculation is
>>>separate from the generation itself, so it should be possible to calculate the
>>>size of the uncompressed files exactly. When we have that we can make an
>>>estimation of the size of the compressed tablebases (approx 20% of the
>>>uncompressed size). And when we have that figure we can sit back and watch the
>>>developments in storage media to see when 6-piece TBs become technically
>>>feasible. Constellation 3D promised their FMD technology would produce optical
>>>disks with a capacity of 1.5 terabyte, but they've failed to deliver so far.
>>>
>>>There should be 365 6-piece tablebase pairs of varying importance, in three main
>>>groups:
>>>
>>>Kxx-Kxx : 120 tablebases
>>>Kxxx-Kx : 175 tablebases
>>>Kxxxx-K :  70 tablebases
>>>
>>>If we have the size for each group we'll know how much space a person needs on
>>>his hard drive to generate KPPKPP, KPPPKP and KPPPPK respectively. Or someone
>>>can fire up his university's supercomputer.
>>>
>>>Maybe it's just an academic pursuit at present, but technology has a habit of
>>>overtaking you when you least expect it.
>>>
>>>And when we've finished with the 6-piece tablebases, what about the 7-piece
>>>egtb's?
>>>
>>>Kxxx-Kxx : 525 tablebases
>>>Kxxxx-Kx : 350 tablebases
>>>Kxxxxx-K : 126 tablebases
>>>
>>>I bet you're all dying to get your hands on the KBBBBBK tablebase ;)
>>
>>
>>According to John the next CM will have a 6 person tablebase generator
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?220246
>>The generation size of all 6 person bases will be compressed and will only
>>take 15 Gb, generation of all 6 person will take about 8 hours.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>
>Even though that would be great, it sounds very unrealistic (atleast to me), did
>you get that information from John?
>
>only 8 hours and 15 gb ! WOW.
>
>pavs ;)

I guess that the numbers of 15 gb is going to be
changed in 2.4 to more realistic numbers.

The 8 hours is realistic and I expect the computers of 1.4.2020
to be able to generate all the 6 piece tablebases in 8 hours

Uri



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