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Subject: Re: 6-Piece Endgame Tablebases

Author: pavel

Date: 00:45:35 04/01/02

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On April 01, 2002 at 03:20:02, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 01, 2002 at 01:16:22, pavel wrote:
>
>>On April 01, 2002 at 01:01:12, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On March 31, 2002 at 18:41:24, Mike Hood wrote:
>>>
>>>>The normal figure thrown about for the size of a complete 6-piece egtb
>>>>collection is "about a terabyte". Can we try to make this figure a bit more
>>>>accurate? In the tablebase generation program the file size calculation is
>>>>separate from the generation itself, so it should be possible to calculate the
>>>>size of the uncompressed files exactly. When we have that we can make an
>>>>estimation of the size of the compressed tablebases (approx 20% of the
>>>>uncompressed size). And when we have that figure we can sit back and watch the
>>>>developments in storage media to see when 6-piece TBs become technically
>>>>feasible. Constellation 3D promised their FMD technology would produce optical
>>>>disks with a capacity of 1.5 terabyte, but they've failed to deliver so far.
>>>>
>>>>There should be 365 6-piece tablebase pairs of varying importance, in three main
>>>>groups:
>>>>
>>>>Kxx-Kxx : 120 tablebases
>>>>Kxxx-Kx : 175 tablebases
>>>>Kxxxx-K :  70 tablebases
>>>>
>>>>If we have the size for each group we'll know how much space a person needs on
>>>>his hard drive to generate KPPKPP, KPPPKP and KPPPPK respectively. Or someone
>>>>can fire up his university's supercomputer.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe it's just an academic pursuit at present, but technology has a habit of
>>>>overtaking you when you least expect it.
>>>>
>>>>And when we've finished with the 6-piece tablebases, what about the 7-piece
>>>>egtb's?
>>>>
>>>>Kxxx-Kxx : 525 tablebases
>>>>Kxxxx-Kx : 350 tablebases
>>>>Kxxxxx-K : 126 tablebases
>>>>
>>>>I bet you're all dying to get your hands on the KBBBBBK tablebase ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>According to John the next CM will have a 6 person tablebase generator
>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?220246
>>>The generation size of all 6 person bases will be compressed and will only
>>>take 15 Gb, generation of all 6 person will take about 8 hours.
>>>
>>>Sarah.
>>
>>
>>Even though that would be great, it sounds very unrealistic (atleast to me), did
>>you get that information from John?
>>
>>only 8 hours and 15 gb ! WOW.
>>
>>pavs ;)
>
>I guess that the numbers of 15 gb is going to be
>changed in 2.4 to more realistic numbers.

I thought 15gb is too less. 2.4 sounds like even more unrealitic.

>
>The 8 hours is realistic and I expect the computers of 1.4.2020
>to be able to generate all the 6 piece tablebases in 8 hours


I dont expect CM9000 to come at 1.4.2020 ;)

Either this is meant as a joke by sarah or something is seriously wrong
somewhere.

:)
pavs



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