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Subject: Re: May I Troll for a Second?

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 06:41:45 04/01/02

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On March 31, 2002 at 22:42:29, Tina Long wrote:

>On March 31, 2002 at 11:00:42, Marc van Hal wrote:
>
>>On March 31, 2002 at 00:24:31, Tina Long wrote:
>>
>>>On March 31, 2002 at 00:04:10, Jerry Doby wrote:
>>>
>>>>How do we know that these side matches between humans and computers are honest?
>>>>If a match is not official with a company of repute will we add these matces to
>>>>chris carsons list? Does the body of CCC accept such matches? I say that I am a
>>>>troll to keep someoneelse from saying it, since everything i say is labeled a
>>>>troll, I thought i might save someone the trouble.
>>>
>>>I have the utmost respect for Grandmasters.  They have immense talent & they
>>>work very very hard to achieve the best Rating & Championships that they can.
>>>Most of the top Grandmasters Eat & Sleep Chess, 24/7.
>>>
>>>Thus the concept of these people Throwing Matches is quite foreign to me.  Their
>>>own self esteem would stop them from such public humiliation.  Their whole
>>>Career rests on winning chess games to get invitations to bigger & better chess
>>>tournaments.
>>>
>>>Only a real loser, who believed his career was ending & beyond redemption, would
>>>throw games to a computer for money.  I believe every Chess Grandmaster does Not
>>>see themselves in that way.
>>>
>>>I think if you respect these people you believe in their honesty, and if you
>>>don't respect them then you doubt their results, which tarnishes all match and
>>>tournament results, from Chris's list all the way up to the current World
>>>Champions.
>>>
>>>I may be nieve to have such faith in Chess Grandmasters, but it is a much more
>>>pleasant life than to be constantly doubting the integrity of game match &
>>>tournament results.
>>>
>>>Tina Long
>>
>>So basicly what you say is it is much easier to believe in lies then in the
>>threuth.
>
>NO I DO NOT say that at all.
>IMO I belieive the truth.
>
>If you want to say that Grandmasters are Cheats who throw games for money then
>SAY IT MARC.  Don't hide behind saying that I believe in Lies.
>
>>This maybe a fact but..
>>Not an good argument.
>
>It is not a fact at all.
>My arguments defending Grandmaster's integrity were good arguments.
>
>What are your arguments that they cheat Marc?
>
>Tina Long
>
>Tina I don't think Mark explains himself well in English, so you can't be certain what he means?

He says you want to believe in lies over truth even if it's a fact! That doesn't
make much sense, but I think he means you are putting "Blind Faith" that all is
above board, (no pun intended) that no funny business is _ever_ taking place,
and the stats are correct, regardless.

He's just skeptical, if you put too much trust in _all_ GM's and the statistical
data.

This I gather from his broken, English and that you don't have a solid case for
debate, wether you're right in your assertions or not.

Does that make any sense?...Oh well...

Regards,
 Terry


>>
>>Regards Marc




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