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Subject: Re: Mate in 8

Author: Heiner Marxen

Date: 14:30:36 04/01/02

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On April 01, 2002 at 14:01:12, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On April 01, 2002 at 13:54:02, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>
>>On April 01, 2002 at 13:39:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>It is clear that you use the KBN vs K tablebases but not the KBN vs K tablebases
>>>and in this case they have no chance to see the mate in 6 because they stop to
>>>search after finding mate.
>>
>>A typo? Or is there really a mate in 6? If yes, this would probably indicate
>>some serious bug in my engine. I don't have the relevant TBs, but it should not
>>matter. BTW. Yace thinks, the 3rd best move is Bf1, with mate in 10. But here
>>the search depth is not be enough yet, to guarantee, that there is no other
>>shorter mate.
>>
>> 1. Bf1 Kg8 2. Kf6 h6 3. Ke7 Kh7 4. Kf7 Kh8 5.
>> Kf8 Kh7 6. Bd3+ Kh8 7. Nf6 h5 8. Ne8 h4 9. Nd6
>> h3 10. Nf7# {610}
>>
>>After Bf5, I get a mate of the same length:
>>
>>1...h6+ 2. Kf6 Kg8 3. Be6+ Kh8 4. Kf7 Kh7 5.
>>Bf5+ Kh8 6. Nf4 h5 7. Kf8 h4 8. Nd3 h3 9. Ne5
>>h2 10. Nf7# {-610}
>
>Analysis by Chest [ONE SECOND TO SOLUTION!]:
>E:\chest-3.24\chest>chest -b -+m -S --egtb-path=e:\programme\winboard\nalimov
>--egtb-mb=8 -z8 m7.epd
>% EGTB found tables for max 5 pieces
>% EGTB uses 48097.4K memory internally
>7k/7p/8/6KN/8/7B/8/8 w - - acn 37; acs 1; bm Be6 Kf6; ce 32752; dm 8; pv Be6 h6+
>Kf6 Kh7 Bf7 Kh8 Ke7 Kh7 Kf8 Kh8 Nf4 h5 Bg8 h4 Ng6#;

Even without any EGTBs and on my rusty K7/600 Chest needs not more than 13.4
secs to print the complete solution tree:

 Be6 h6+ Kf6  Kh7 Bf7  Kh8 Ke7  Kh7 Kf8  Kh8 Nf4  Kh7 Bg8+ Kh8 Ng6#
                                                  h5  Bg8  h4  Ng6#
                  Kf7  Kh8 Kf8  Kh7 Bf7  Kh8 Nf4  Kh7 Bg8+ Kh8 Ng6#
                                                  h5  Bg8  h4  Ng6#
 Kf6 h6  Be6  Kh7 Bf7  Kh8 Ke7  Kh7 Kf8  Kh8 Nf4  Kh7 Bg8+ Kh8 Ng6#
                                                  h5  Bg8  h4  Ng6#
                  Kf7  Kh8 Kf8  Kh7 Bf7  Kh8 Nf4  Kh7 Bg8+ Kh8 Ng6#
                                                  h5  Bg8  h4  Ng6#
         Kf7  Kh7 Be6  Kh8 Kf8  Kh7 Bf7  Kh8 Nf4  Kh7 Bg8+ Kh8 Ng6#
                                                  h5  Bg8  h4  Ng6#
                  Bf5+ Kh8 Nf4  h5  Kf8  h4  Nd3  h3  Ne5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne6  h3  Nd8  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                    Nd3  h4  Kf8  h3  Ne5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ne6  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd8  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd8  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Nh3  h4  Ng5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                           Nf6  h5  Kf8  h4  Nd7  h3  Ne5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne4  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng4  h3  Ne5  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Nh6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng8  h3  Nh6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nh7  h3  Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                    Nd7  h4  Kf8  h3  Ne5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ne4  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ne8  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ng8  h4  Kf8  h3  Nh6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nh6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Nh7  h4  Kf8  h3  Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                           Ng3  h5  Kf8  h4  Ne4  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ne4  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                           Ng7  h5  Kf8  h4  Ne6  h3  Nd8  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ne6  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd8  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd8  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ne8  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                  Nf6+ Kh8 Bf5  h5  Kf8  h4  Nd7  h3  Ne5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne4  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng4  h3  Ne5  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Nh6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng8  h3  Nh6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nh7  h3  Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                    Nd7  h4  Kf8  h3  Ne5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ne4  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ne8  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ng8  h4  Kf8  h3  Nh6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nh6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Nh7  h4  Kf8  h3  Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                           Kf8  h5  Bf5  h4  Nd7  h3  Ne5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne4  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng4  h3  Ne5  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Nh6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng8  h3  Nh6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nh7  h3  Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ng8  Kh7 Bf5+ Kh8 Nh6  h4  Nf7#
                                         h4  Bf5  h3  Nh6  h2  Nf7#
                           Nd7  Kh7 Bf5+ Kh8 Kf8  h5  Ne5  h4  Nf7#
                                             Ne5  h5  Kf8  h4  Nf7#
                                h5  Bf5  h4  Kf8  h3  Ne5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                           Ne4  Kh7 Bf5+ Kh8 Kf8  h5  Nd6  h4  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h4  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h5  Kf8  h4  Nf7#
                                h5  Bf5  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ng5  h4  Bf5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                           Ne8  Kh7 Bf5+ Kh8 Kf8  h5  Nd6  h4  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h5  Kf8  h4  Nf7#
                                h5  Bf5  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                           Ng8  Kh7 Bf5+ Kh8 Kf8  h5  Nh6  h4  Nf7#
                                h5  Bf5  h4  Kf8  h3  Nh6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nh6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Kf8  Kh7 Bf5+ Kh8 Nh6  h4  Nf7#
                                         h4  Bf5  h3  Nh6  h2  Nf7#
                  Ng7  Kh8 Bf5  h5  Kf8  h4  Ne6  h3  Nd8  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ne6  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd8  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd8  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ne8  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                           Kf8  Kh7 Bf5+ Kh8 Ne6  h5  Nd8  h4  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h4  Nf7#
                                             Ne8  h5  Nd6  h4  Nf7#
                                h5  Bf5  h4  Ne6  h3  Nd8  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                           Ne6  Kh7 Bf5+ Kh8 Kf8  h5  Nd8  h4  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h4  Nf7#
                                             Nd8  h5  Kf8  h4  Nf7#
                                h5  Bf5  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd8  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd8  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ng5  h4  Bf5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                           Ne8  Kh7 Bf5+ Kh8 Kf8  h5  Nd6  h4  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h5  Kf8  h4  Nf7#
                                h5  Bf5  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                       h5  Bf5+ Kh8 Kf8  h4  Ne6  h3  Nd8  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ne8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ne6  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd8  h2  Nf7#
                                                      Ng5  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd8  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                             Ng5  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                    Ne8  h4  Kf8  h3  Nd6  h2  Nf7#
                                             Nd6  h3  Kf8  h2  Nf7#
                                Kh6 Kf6  h4  Bg6  h3  Nf5#
     Kg8 Be6+ Kh8 Nf4  h5  Kg6  h4  Kh6  h3  Ng6#
                       h6  Kg6  h5  Kh6  h4  Ng6#
              Kf8 Bf7  h6  Nf4  h5  Ne6#
                                    Ng6#
                           Ng7  h5  Ne6#
                  Ng7  h5  Bf7  h4  Ne6#
                       h6  Bf7  h5  Ne6#

So, the table bases appear to be correct (this time)  :-))

Cheers,
Heiner



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