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Subject: Re: May I Troll for a Second?

Author: Tina Long

Date: 02:13:17 04/02/02

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On April 01, 2002 at 09:41:45, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On March 31, 2002 at 22:42:29, Tina Long wrote:
>
>>On March 31, 2002 at 11:00:42, Marc van Hal wrote:
>>
>>>On March 31, 2002 at 00:24:31, Tina Long wrote:
>>>

>>>>I may be nieve to have such faith in Chess Grandmasters, but it is a much more
>>>>pleasant life than to be constantly doubting the integrity of game match &
>>>>tournament results.
>>>>
>>>>Tina Long
>>>
>>>So basicly what you say is it is much easier to believe in lies then in the
>>>threuth.
>>
>>NO I DO NOT say that at all.
>>IMO I belieive the truth.
>>
>>If you want to say that Grandmasters are Cheats who throw games for money then
>>SAY IT MARC.  Don't hide behind saying that I believe in Lies.
>>
>>>This maybe a fact but..
>>>Not an good argument.
>>
>>It is not a fact at all.
>>My arguments defending Grandmaster's integrity were good arguments.
>>
>>What are your arguments that they cheat Marc?
>>
>>Tina Long
>>
>>Tina I don't think Mark explains himself well in English, so you can't be certain what he means?
>
>He says you want to believe in lies over truth even if it's a fact! That doesn't
>make much sense, but I think he means you are putting "Blind Faith" that all is
>above board, (no pun intended) that no funny business is _ever_ taking place,
>and the stats are correct, regardless.
>
>He's just skeptical, if you put too much trust in _all_ GM's and the statistical
>data.
>
>This I gather from his broken, English and that you don't have a solid case for
>debate, wether you're right in your assertions or not.
>
>Does that make any sense?...Oh well...
>
>Regards,
> Terry

Marc has claimed in the past that some Grandmaster Matches - including Kasparov
Kramnik - were fixed.  When he's stated this in the past he's always left out
great chunks of argument in the guise of "everybody knows" or "as I said
before".

When he said here "easier to believe in lies then in the threuth" he was
referring to the fact that believing GM's have integrity is a lie.  It's a Troll
thread so I decided to challenge him.  I'd really love to see his Proof that
Kasparov - Kramnik was fixed.

Cheers,
Tina



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