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Subject: Re: ok - it was an april fools joke, but ... in those old days

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:32:13 04/02/02

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On April 02, 2002 at 07:43:45, Thorsten Czub wrote:
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>In the moment, it looks (and Paris - seen, completely ignoring Cstals
>participation, but the rest of the games played there - has given me right) like
>the knowledge approach leads.
>Shredder won Jakarta championship. Junior Paris. Virtual-chess2, an intelligent
>program plays knowledged too, follows second. Shredder2 in a top 3rd position in
>paris.

My impression based on watching games is that programs that
you consider as slow searchers like shredder has
no special knowledge to be considered as knowledge based program.

Here is a link for a loss of Shredder6 at 12 hours per side.

see http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?220995

Shredder captured a pawn at h2 and did not understand that
the rook has no future after capturing h2(it evaluated itself as 2 pawns up
when it seems that the position is drawn and even lost the game).

Even only material evaluation is more realistic
than shredder's evaluation.



I have a friend who told me that he is disappointed from shredder.
He told me that he read(in new in chess if I remember correctly)
that one grandmaster said that he is using shredder
because shredder is good in endgames.

My friend found in his correspondence games that shredder goes
for the same wrong ideas like other programs.

Uri



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