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Subject: Re: New match against Computers!!! (Shredder, Hiarcs, Chess Tiger!, Junior)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:27:44 04/03/02

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On April 03, 2002 at 12:39:38, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 03, 2002 at 11:28:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 02, 2002 at 05:42:06, Tanya Deborah wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hello CCC !
>>>
>>>
>>>A new match will be played very soon. GM Ilya Smirin (2703) will play against
>>>
>>>ChessTiger, Hiarcs, Junior and Shredder with the same conditions that Gulko
>>>played (same time too).
>>>
>>>
>>>Look :
>>>
>>> All programs are the latest and greatest versions, as submitted and supervised
>>>by their authors and accompanied with special opening preparation. Hardware:
>>>Dual Pentium Intel 1 GHz 750 MB RAM (or faster) for the multi processors (Junior
>>>Shredder), P2 2.2 GHz for single processors (Hiarcs, Tiger).
>>
>>Your hardware doesn't make a lot of sense.  Why not play _all_ four using
>>the 2.2ghz processor?  That is significantly faster than a dual 1ghz machine...
>
>I think that you missed the words "or faster"
>
>*Dual 1 Ghz or faster* is not slower than 2.2 Ghz.

For Crafty, the performance of a dual is 1.7x the speed of a single
processor.  I didn't read "or faster" to mean "or a _lot_ faster".
The processors (on the dual) would need to be at least 1.4ghz each to
match the 2.2ghz single.  And I would _still_ prefer the single...




>
>I am also not sure if dual 1 Ghz is slower than 2.2 Ghz.

I +know+ it is slower.  Because of search overhead.  There is no way to avoid
searching extra stuff in a parallel search that is not searched in a serial
search.  And that hurts...




>It is slower if you assume that the speed is proportional to the number of Ghz.
>
>I know based on previous discussions that there was a big disappointment from
>the pIV machines and
>I understood that the PIV is significantly slower with the same Ghz so I assume
>nothing based on only reading the Mhz.
>
>Uri



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