Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: is shr.paderborn an improvement on s6?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:57:28 04/05/02

Go up one level in this thread


On April 05, 2002 at 12:25:44, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On April 05, 2002 at 02:13:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On April 05, 2002 at 01:15:25, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>
>>>On April 04, 2002 at 18:03:23, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 04, 2002 at 14:14:51, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 01, 2002 at 02:03:15, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 01, 2002 at 01:55:29, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On March 31, 2002 at 16:46:42, liam hearns wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks in advance!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I did not have time enough to test it very much
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>, but I got the impression it is about 15 to 20 points stronger than 6.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>April fool ?.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lack of fantasy?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Agh I see replying once to the same post isn't enough.
>>>
>>>No.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Of course if a good programmer works on the engine and is able to improve some
>>>>>parts of the engine the result is a stronger engine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Did he tell you he had improved some parts of the engine?
>>>
>>>Yes, but this is not important. I want to see them.
>>>
>>>>I'm sure also the case of other engines MCP8 comes to mind, even Nimzo 8, the
>>>>"good" programmers felt they produced a stronger engine.
>>>
>>>MCP8 was the best engine by Marty. The best commercial one as there has been
>>>another which I own which was never showed to the pubblic. The problem was that
>>>it would have been better using faster hardware as it was optimized at
>>>tournament time level (40/2).
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Isn't the same in USA?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No idea, but doubt it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Sorry I forgot you like more marks ??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No, I simply like data that supports claims.
>>>
>>>Well, in 1976 I told many people that in year 2000 computer would have reach GM
>>>playing level. People where laughing at me and telling me that there was no
>>>suppurt claims to that and many technical articles were saying things different.
>>
>>
>>I guess that you talked with the wrong people.
>
>Maybe, but I was not interested to find someone to tell me I was right. However
>even the strong players thought the same (IMs and GMs).

No

I know that david levy who did the famous bet that no computer is going to beat
him in 1978 refused to continue the bet for more 10 years.

What is the reason?
He simply believed that computers are going to be too strong even for him in
1988 and it seems obvious that he believed that computers are going to be GM
strength in the year 2000.

Uri



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.