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Subject: Re: Computers are definitely better that 2500 elo. I could say 2600-2650

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 14:02:59 04/06/02

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On April 06, 2002 at 06:44:37, Michael Vox wrote:

>Dr. Hyatt is incorrect and Deborah is correct.  It is obvious on a 1.2 ghz or
>stronger that programs are over 2500 and probably over 2600.

How do you know this _factually_ Mike?
>
>FIDE should allow Fritz to participate in human FIDE tournaments for a year to
>determine an accurate rating.  It would be good advertising for everyone
>involved.
>
>Just Fritz? Anyways, the FIDE won't do it, but I agree it could be great advertising!

TM
>
>
>On April 06, 2002 at 02:05:40, Tanya Deborah wrote:
>
>>On April 05, 2002 at 21:49:51, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On April 05, 2002 at 21:33:22, Jerry Doby wrote:
>>>
>>>>Mr. Berg is a legitamate 2500 elo player and fritz is winning the match, I have
>>>>yet to see a bad computer result vs humans, yet some people stubbornly hold on
>>>>to the nonsense that computers are not 2500 elo????? Barbaric ignorance I would
>>>>say for sure!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>I guess you're referring to Dr. Hyatt? I believe he said that computers and this
>>>was some weeks back, may be at the 2500 level.
>>
>>
>>I do not think that Jerry is reffering to Dr. Hyatt. He has the free opinion to
>>talk about it (meanwhile do not insult anybody) and I also believe that some
>>people here do not want to understand that computers played at GM Level. Best
>>computers programs play definitely at 2600-2650 elo level. Why people can´t
>>understant it??????
>>
>>I don´t think that a 2450 player can get a second place, in the Dutch
>>Tournament. (Fritz got it)
>>
>>I don´t think that a 2450 player can beat Van Wely two times, in a four game
>>match. (Rebel 4 did it!)
>>
>>I don´t think that a 2450 player can get same great results that Junior got in
>>the Dortmund Tournament some time ago. It got an elo of 2701!!!!(slow time!!)
>>
>>a 2450 player can´t beat Gulko in the same way that new programs dit it!
>>
>>AND I AM SURE THAT a 2450 player CAN´T TAKE THE FIRST PLACE, IN THE SAME WAY
>>THAT THE AMAZING CHESS TIGER 14 DID IN ARGENTINA!.
>>
>>There are many results that prove that today computer programs are indeed
>>superior to 2500 elo against humans.  Why. Why is so difficult to understand to
>>some persons here ??????????
>>
>>Do you need that Fritz beats 8-0 to Kramnik  to think that computers are clearly
>>better that 2500 ????????????? :-)
>>
>>Best Regards!
>>
>>Tanya Deborah.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>What's "Barbaric Ignorance" is posting trolls like this to make a pathetic
>>>attempt to flame people who know a hell of alot more than you ever will!
>>>
>>>So when you watch Kramnik Fry Fritz, then what will you say?  Of course Kramnik
>>>is 2800 and has plenty of time to prepare so you'll say "Of course he won it was
>>>unfair for the computer!":o))
>>>
>>>TM



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