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Subject: Re: 1-0 The Miracle of the Little Beast CTP 14.9 vs SJeng 12.11

Author: pavel

Date: 19:36:00 04/06/02

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On April 06, 2002 at 22:27:24, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 06, 2002 at 22:13:17, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On April 06, 2002 at 21:43:08, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>SJeng 12.11 is playing without TB to make it fair since Chess Tiger 14.9 doesn't
>>>use TB. Even with TB SJeng would have lost this game regardless. Uri is right
>>>this SJeng is a tought opponent with an estimated rating by its author close to
>>>2400 in standard time control.2. What is Sjeng's status ?
>>>
>>>PS: Simply consider this a Pearl of a game, Simply an Amazing Performance!
>>>
>>>
>>>It has successfully beaten players rated over 2500 points, including several
>>>titled GM's and IM's. One version of Sjeng even attained the first place in the
>>>crazyhouse players list on the Internet Chess Club (ICC), and the first place on
>>>the Free Internet Chess Server (FICS). Its crazyhouse rating currently
>>>fluctuates around 2300 points.
>>>Sjeng is probably a bit weaker in bughouse than it is in crazyhouse. Most
>>>Sjeng's on the FICS have a rating of about 2000 points in bughouse, with a top
>>>of over 2200 points.
>>>
>>>For standard chess, Sjeng's rating is probably about 2400 ELO. In suicide and
>>>losers chess Sjeng beats all but the very best humans, and will beat
>>>non-specialized programs easily.
>>
>>It seems strange to me that sjeng gets only depth 4 or 5.
>>I know that we cannot compare depthes of different programs but
>>programs usually get bigger depths and even the weak movei on celeron gets
>>usually depth 7-9 at that time control.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I can add that sjeng can search clearly deeper in the middle game based on the
>following post.
>
>http://www.it.ro/ccc_search/ccc.php?art_id=198392
>
>I know that the hardware is better and that sjeng is an older version and the
>positions are different but still sjeng could get depth 8 in a few seconds.
>
>I suspect that your celeron was slowed down by a significant factor so sjeng did
>not enjoy from a significant speed advantage that the celeron should give it.
>
>Uri

At this time control (40/40) the depth does seem very odd, even for the most
slowest program out there. At this depth, not is it right to compare sjeng with
CTP 14.9, Sjeng actually more crippled than CTP in a handheld.

pavs



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