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Subject: Re: 1-0 The Miracle of the Little Beast CTP 14.9 vs SJeng 12.11

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 19:55:19 04/06/02

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On April 06, 2002 at 22:36:00, pavel wrote:

>On April 06, 2002 at 22:27:24, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On April 06, 2002 at 22:13:17, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 06, 2002 at 21:43:08, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>SJeng 12.11 is playing without TB to make it fair since Chess Tiger 14.9 doesn't
>>>>use TB. Even with TB SJeng would have lost this game regardless. Uri is right
>>>>this SJeng is a tought opponent with an estimated rating by its author close to
>>>>2400 in standard time control.2. What is Sjeng's status ?
>>>>
>>>>PS: Simply consider this a Pearl of a game, Simply an Amazing Performance!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It has successfully beaten players rated over 2500 points, including several
>>>>titled GM's and IM's. One version of Sjeng even attained the first place in the
>>>>crazyhouse players list on the Internet Chess Club (ICC), and the first place on
>>>>the Free Internet Chess Server (FICS). Its crazyhouse rating currently
>>>>fluctuates around 2300 points.
>>>>Sjeng is probably a bit weaker in bughouse than it is in crazyhouse. Most
>>>>Sjeng's on the FICS have a rating of about 2000 points in bughouse, with a top
>>>>of over 2200 points.
>>>>
>>>>For standard chess, Sjeng's rating is probably about 2400 ELO. In suicide and
>>>>losers chess Sjeng beats all but the very best humans, and will beat
>>>>non-specialized programs easily.
>>>
>>>It seems strange to me that sjeng gets only depth 4 or 5.
>>>I know that we cannot compare depthes of different programs but
>>>programs usually get bigger depths and even the weak movei on celeron gets
>>>usually depth 7-9 at that time control.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I can add that sjeng can search clearly deeper in the middle game based on the
>>following post.
>>
>>http://www.it.ro/ccc_search/ccc.php?art_id=198392
>>
>>I know that the hardware is better and that sjeng is an older version and the
>>positions are different but still sjeng could get depth 8 in a few seconds.
>>
>>I suspect that your celeron was slowed down by a significant factor so sjeng did
>>not enjoy from a significant speed advantage that the celeron should give it.
>>
>>Uri
>
>At this time control (40/40) the depth does seem very odd, even for the most
>slowest program out there. At this depth, not is it right to compare sjeng with
>CTP 14.9, Sjeng actually more crippled than CTP in a handheld.
>
>pavs

I downloaded the SJeng v12.11 now what version do you suggest?; there doesn't
seems to be nothing wrong with my Celeron since it is the same one that I have
been using with Movei From Uri, Bestia, Faile, and Gaviota. If you can suggest
the best version of SJeng then I will use it. Just give me the website where I
can find the best Version.

Pichard.



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