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Subject: Re: 1-0 The Miracle of the Little Beast CTP 14.9 vs SJeng 12.11

Author: pavel

Date: 20:09:16 04/06/02

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On April 06, 2002 at 22:55:19, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On April 06, 2002 at 22:36:00, pavel wrote:
>
>>On April 06, 2002 at 22:27:24, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 06, 2002 at 22:13:17, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 06, 2002 at 21:43:08, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>SJeng 12.11 is playing without TB to make it fair since Chess Tiger 14.9 doesn't
>>>>>use TB. Even with TB SJeng would have lost this game regardless. Uri is right
>>>>>this SJeng is a tought opponent with an estimated rating by its author close to
>>>>>2400 in standard time control.2. What is Sjeng's status ?
>>>>>
>>>>>PS: Simply consider this a Pearl of a game, Simply an Amazing Performance!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It has successfully beaten players rated over 2500 points, including several
>>>>>titled GM's and IM's. One version of Sjeng even attained the first place in the
>>>>>crazyhouse players list on the Internet Chess Club (ICC), and the first place on
>>>>>the Free Internet Chess Server (FICS). Its crazyhouse rating currently
>>>>>fluctuates around 2300 points.
>>>>>Sjeng is probably a bit weaker in bughouse than it is in crazyhouse. Most
>>>>>Sjeng's on the FICS have a rating of about 2000 points in bughouse, with a top
>>>>>of over 2200 points.
>>>>>
>>>>>For standard chess, Sjeng's rating is probably about 2400 ELO. In suicide and
>>>>>losers chess Sjeng beats all but the very best humans, and will beat
>>>>>non-specialized programs easily.
>>>>
>>>>It seems strange to me that sjeng gets only depth 4 or 5.
>>>>I know that we cannot compare depthes of different programs but
>>>>programs usually get bigger depths and even the weak movei on celeron gets
>>>>usually depth 7-9 at that time control.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>I can add that sjeng can search clearly deeper in the middle game based on the
>>>following post.
>>>
>>>http://www.it.ro/ccc_search/ccc.php?art_id=198392
>>>
>>>I know that the hardware is better and that sjeng is an older version and the
>>>positions are different but still sjeng could get depth 8 in a few seconds.
>>>
>>>I suspect that your celeron was slowed down by a significant factor so sjeng did
>>>not enjoy from a significant speed advantage that the celeron should give it.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>At this time control (40/40) the depth does seem very odd, even for the most
>>slowest program out there. At this depth, not is it right to compare sjeng with
>>CTP 14.9, Sjeng actually more crippled than CTP in a handheld.
>>
>>pavs
>
>I downloaded the SJeng v12.11 now what version do you suggest?; there doesn't
>seems to be nothing wrong with my Celeron since it is the same one that I have
>been using with Movei From Uri, Bestia, Faile, and Gaviota. If you can suggest
>the best version of SJeng then I will use it. Just give me the website where I
>can find the best Version.
>
>Pichard.


I wont suggest anything, because you are using the latest version.
Still one doesnt need to be a genius to find out that sjeng was crippled in this
match, whats your opinion about sjeng only searcing 4/5 depths in average?

There is something wrong with the game setup, check your computer again.

pavs



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