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Subject: Re: ChessTiger 14.9 on Palm 28MHz - Genius/PocketGM on ipaq 206 MHz pgn

Author: Alain Lyrette

Date: 09:24:20 04/07/02

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On April 07, 2002 at 11:58:52, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 07, 2002 at 11:08:09, Alain Lyrette wrote:
>
>>
>>On April 07, 2002 at 09:05:29, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 07, 2002 at 07:02:09, Alain Lyrette wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On April 07, 2002 at 06:02:47, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 07, 2002 at 05:55:38, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>This indicates very strongly that Genius on ipac is best thing available by way
>>>>>>of handheld.
>>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>>
>>>>>No
>>>>>It indicates nothing because the pam ran only with 28 mhz.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>28 or 54mhz is irrelevant.As of now even if you push a palm to it's pathetic
>>>>limits,it's no match for an ipaq running at 206 mhz.Chess Tiger is a much better
>>>>program than Genius and yet,in a match,it will lose badly if Genius runs on the
>>>>strongarm.
>>>
>>>I suspect that it depends on the time control and on tournament time
>>>control(120/40) palm tiget may win thanks to a better branching factor.
>>>
>>>If you play only blitz then faster harware may be more important.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>A good analogy would be Tiger in the skin of a very talented lightweight
>>boxer...great skills,smart and with stamina to spare,against a so-so
>>heavyweight.Sure for 1 or 2 round the lightweight can evade the punch of the
>>bigger boxer thanks to his superior skills(better branch factor) but in the long
>>run...BAM!This lightweight WOULD have a chance against a so-so MIDDLEWEIGHT.Come
>>on here.....we're talking about a 4-8x speed difference crunching positions.On
>>the CHESSGENIUS website they are talking about a 300(THREE HUNDREDS!) ELO
>>difference between the 2 versions(palm and pcpocket).Let say  that Chesstiger is
>>about 100 elo better than Genius AT THE SAME SPEED..so we have our answer.Who
>>are we trying to kid here?.....Alain
>
>1)I guess that the difference between palm tiger and palm genius at 120/40 is
>more than 100 elo.
>
>2)I guess that 4-8 times speed advantage is translated to 150-200 elo and not
>300 elo.
>
>UrOn the first point you may be right.Let say 150.I disagree on the second.I predict that Chesstiger will be AT LEAST 200 elo stronger on a pocketpc platform than it is with present-day palms.



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