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Subject: Re: Yahoo chess players and CCC Posters

Author: john rice

Date: 13:48:46 04/07/02

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Well said John Smith.
On April 07, 2002 at 14:31:01, John Smith wrote:

>On April 06, 2002 at 23:47:26, Russell Reagan wrote:
>
>>On April 06, 2002 at 22:42:36, john rice wrote:
>>
>>>99.9% of the players rated 2100 or higher are using programs
>>
>>That's quite a bold statement, especially for someone who has apparently played
>>a lot on Yahoo. It either says that you know nothing about this subject, or you
>>are an extreme beginner. I play maybe a couple games a month on Yahoo when I'm
>>just bored, and I'm not that great of a player. I'm rated aroun 1800 on Yahoo,
>>and it would take me probably a day or two to get my rating over 2100 on Yahoo.
>>2100 on Yahoo isn't saying much, and I don't think that 99% of the people over
>>2100 are computer programs. I wouldn't even say 50% are. When you KNOW that a
>>player is using a program is when they have a record of something like 10,000-0
>>and have a rating of like 40,000. 2100 is nothing on Yahoo and any intermediate
>>level chess player could acheive such a rating on Yahoo. Yahoo is overrun with
>>beginners, and that's why I like to play there when I do play. If I wanted to be
>>serious about chess, I would probably play on ICC.
>>
>>I do agree with you that there are very few serious players on Yahoo. But that's
>>not all bad. People who just want a casual game for fun here and there need some
>>place too, and they're probably not going to pay money for that.
>>
>>Russell
>
>
>You, sir, are quite mistaken.  K.Bircham is correct when he states 99% of reds
>in yahoo use programs; the other 1% are nothing more than vile, amphibian life
>forms using red rated ids to impress others.
>
>You state he is a beginner for making his assertion, yet you admit that you only
>play a couple of games a month.  Your admittedly low total of games played do
>not qualify you as an expert at yahoo chess.  I have been playing seriously at
>yahoo since 1998 and I can state, unequivocally that 90% of those playing in
>Advanced lounges, reds or not, are using programs.
>
>We do not consider it cheating, but merely an enjoyable form of testing our
>programs and hardware against other like minded individuals; similiar to car
>racing.  Cheaters are those who pretend to be 'GMs' or master who use their
>programs to cheat in the social lounges (normally populated by teenagers or
>lonely housewives looking for vicarious thrills).
>
>In short, I will state once again, that some of the strongest programs to be
>found today are in yahoo advanced lounge 1, not the SDDF; if you need proof,
>just come on over and test your engines; you may be shocked.



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