Author: Russell Reagan
Date: 20:41:37 04/07/02
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On April 07, 2002 at 14:31:01, John Smith wrote: [snip] >You, sir, are quite mistaken. No, I'm not. [snip] >You state he is a beginner for making his assertion, yet you admit that you only >play a couple of games a month. Yes, currently I play several games a month there. In the past however I have played an average of around 10-20 games per day for many months at a time, and I have achieved the holy grail "red" status, and it wasn't hard. I'm not that great of a player now, and I certainly wasn't 6 or so years ago when I started playing on Yahoo. >Your admittedly low total of games played do >not qualify you as an expert at yahoo chess. See above... >I have been playing seriously at >yahoo since 1998 Wow, I was playing there for several years by the time you came around. > and I can state, unequivocally that 90% of those playing in >Advanced lounges, reds or not, are using programs. No, actually you can't. You have absolutely 100% no method of proving that anyone uses a program. Even if they're 1000000-0 and have a rating of 9999999999, you have no proof, so you can't say that "unequivicolly". >We do not consider it cheating, but merely an enjoyable form of testing our >programs and hardware against other like minded individuals; similiar to car >racing. Cheaters are those who pretend to be 'GMs' or master who use their >programs to cheat in the social lounges (normally populated by teenagers or >lonely housewives looking for vicarious thrills). On Yahoo it is cheating, just like it would be cheating on ICC if you didn't declare your computer status. Since Yahoo makes no method for declaring such status, and since all players assume human opponents, it is cheating, plain and simple. If you want to ask in the lounge if anyone would like to play your program, that's fine, but if you just join a table and play, that's cheating. >In short, I will state once again, that some of the strongest programs to be >found today are in yahoo advanced lounge 1, not the SDDF; if you need proof, >just come on over and test your engines; you may be shocked. LOL! I think it's safe to say that there isn't this little pack of elite programmers who have created programs that no one has ever heard of that play on Yahoo of all places. More than likely, any of the players making use of computers are not making use of their own programs, but they're probably running Chessmaster, Fritz, Shredder, Junior, Chess Tiger, etc. Russell
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