Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 21:41:55 04/07/02
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On April 08, 2002 at 00:17:55, Russell Reagan wrote: >On April 07, 2002 at 23:59:15, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On April 07, 2002 at 23:47:59, Russell Reagan wrote: >> >>>Given a game, are there any methods of analyzing the game for the purposes of >>>determining whether one of the players is a computer? I've heard people say that >>>ICC uses some method to detect cheating, but I can't really figure out how they >>>would do that, unless they just have a computer running many top programs and >>>try to find players who are consistently in line with the moves a particular >>>program plays. >>> >>>Any thoughts? >>> >>>Russell >> >>if the player use exactly the same time for every move you can suspect that it >>is a computer. >> >>If the player thinks a long time about an obvious capture you can suspect that >>it is a computer. >> >>If the player plays no tactical mistakes in complicated position that it is >>natural to expect humans to blunder then you can also suspect that it is a >>computer. >> >>Uri > >Good ideas. Do you think that if ICC does attempt to detect cheaters that they >use a "selective search" and look for good candidates that are cheating? For >example, they surely do not have the computing power capable of analyzing every >game played on ICC. So do you think that they would only look at those players >who either have very good records or have complaints filed against them? Also it >might be a good idea to have some random selection, such as having a computer >analyze random games and occassionally it will hit upon a player who warrants >further investigating. Sounds interesting to me, kinda like the chess police :) > >Russell Man it can hard to tell these days, especially in blitz! But I was good at remebering my games when I was very active on chess severs in 97, and I suspected computers, even which programme sometimes. I remember catching some CM5000 G/5's. I wasn't certain untill I put them to CM5000 on equal hardware. I knew the hardware as I knew the person's machine at the time, also I knew CM5000s' style hence I tested the games and voila it was indeed CM5000!:) Also I played him G/2 but he quit after being killed game after game, as it was a java board and it was too hard for him to operate both the programme and the game. hehehe! Terry
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