Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:56:11 04/07/02
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On April 07, 2002 at 19:35:35, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >On April 06, 2002 at 22:09:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>I certainly consider "deep thought" to be "original deep blue hardware". >>As does most everyone, since that is where it _started_... > >That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You might as well say the 4004 is >"the original Pentium." > OK... It is stupid. It is _still_ what I said... And what I meant. If it was "too subtle" for you, that's life... Since the name "deep blue" was applied to the original deep thought hardware, in 1995 in Hong Kong (deep blue prototype) this seems perfectly reasonable, IMHO... >>I believe I said a "real chess program"... I don't know of any "real" engines >>that search 2K instructions per node... I'm also talking about _real_ nodes... >>Just to be clear... > >Oh, so my program isn't a real chess program and it doesn't search real nodes? >Grow up, Bob. > >Figuring that today's processors retire approximately 1 instruction per clock >(slightly more for the Athlon and P3, slightly less for the P4), a program that >needs 2k instructions/node would search 1M NPS on a 2GHz MPU. I found a post on >the web about how Crafty searches 800k NPS on a 1.4GHz Athlon. It must search >more than 1M NPS on recent Athlons (which aren't at 2GHz yet). So by your >definition, Crafty isn't a "real chess program" either. > >>Nothing more to say... There are parts available for a year or more that >>run over 75mhz... A FPGA certainly has a max clock speed regardless of _what_ >>is "loaded into it". This clock speed might be significantly lower due to the >>thing being "loaded" of course. But there _is_ a max no matter what is loaded, >>and _that_ is the raw speed number I was referencing.. Everything has a max >>due to various things from gate delays to whatever you want.. > >Of course it does. But to assume that chess logic would run at that maximum >speed, which you have implied, is absurd. It seems like you're in a competition >with yourself to say the stupidest thing ever. > >-Tom Actually I am not competing there at all. You are winning hands down...
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