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Subject: Re: Computer Evaluations of positions

Author: Jeff White

Date: 15:42:27 04/08/02

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On April 08, 2002 at 16:47:19, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On April 08, 2002 at 16:12:54, Jeff White wrote:
>
>>33.cxd5 Qxc5
>>-+ (-10.77) Depth: 2/5 00:00:00
>>33.Qxd5 cxd5
>>-+ (-10.41) Depth: 2/5 00:00:00
>>33.Rxb7
>>-+ (-10.01) Depth: 2/5 00:00:00
>>33.Rxb7 Qf5+ 34.Kg2 Rxc5 35.Rxb8+
>>-+ (-9.58) Depth: 2/5 00:00:00
>>33.Rxb7 Qf5+ 34.g4 Rd3+ 35.Kg2 Qxc5 36.Rxb8+
>>-+ (-9.73) Depth: 3/7 00:00:00
>>33.Rxb7 Qf5+ 34.g4 Rd3+ 35.Kh4 Qxc5 36.Rxb8+
>>-+ (-9.75) Depth: 4/11 00:00:00
>>
>>The above evaluation is something that I just cut and pasted from a game that
>>Crafty evaluated. These are BASICALLY the same on all computer programs. What I
>>need to know is what these figures mean. Am I right in assuming that -10.77
>>would mean the program sees the position better for black? If it was a +10.77 it
>>would be better for white? What does the number mean? The "10.77"? What about
>>depth 2/5? I am also assuming that 00:00:00 would mean the time the program
>>looked at the position? ANY help is greatly appreciated. Thanks very much.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Jeff
>
>You are correct in assuming that negative values are good for black, and
>positive values are good for white. Most computer programs (in fact, all that
>I've ever seen) give the value in terms of pawns. So if the score is -10.77,
>that means that black is ahead by about 10 or 11 pawns. You can also use the
>rough piece values of queen=9, bishop and knight=3, pawns=1, rooks=5 if you want
>a general estimate.
>
>The depth 2/5 means that the computer looked at every move up to 2 ply deep, and
>then it only looked at some of the moves up to 5 ply. If you know anything about
>programming chess, the first number is usually the alpha beta search depth, and
>the second number is usually the quiesent search depth.
>
>And you are correct about 00:00:00 being the amount of time the computer spent
>on that position. 00:00:00 just means it spent less than 1 second looking, since
>obviously "zero time" wouldn't give you any result.
>
>Russell


Thanks very much for clearing this up. I appreciate it.

Regards,
Jeff




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