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Subject: Re: Pre match comments by Ilya Smirin

Author: Otello Gnaramori

Date: 14:41:54 04/09/02

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On April 09, 2002 at 17:24:22, Chessfun wrote:

>On April 09, 2002 at 13:39:15, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>
>>On April 09, 2002 at 13:17:42, Shay Bushinsky wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.kasparovchess.com/serve/templates/folders/show.asp?p_docID=20898&p_docLang=EN
>>
>>
>>Mr. Smirin said :
>>
>>"In my opinion they are extremely strong, I’d say about 2700 or even higher. I
>>don’t see a big difference between the programs, although I’m pretty sure all of
>>them have their stronger and weaker sides"
>>
>>That's quite interesting...Kramnik indicates Fritz at 2800+ , Smirin indicates
>>that comps are now 2700+
>>
>>The above judgements are coming in order from nr. 2 and nr. 15 of Chess World
>>ranking...not exactly patzers.
>
>
>I seriously doubt a persons chess ability means they automatically qualify to
>judge how strong computers play.

Yes, but they can compare comps strength to other known players including
themselves.

 For all you know he hasn't played a program in
>years and as you wrote elsewhere;
>"I'm wondering on his opinion about nowadays computer's elo of 2700+ is based on
>what?"
>

My guess was that Smirin tested "probably" the newest programs at home or
probably was analyzing the more recent games of comps. vs. humans, to justify
his claim , since the latest match of him vs. comps was on 1996.

>
>>In this forum "experts" said at the best between 2500 and 2600.
>
>
>Does that meam that you consider Kramnik and Smirin "experts"? apparently not
>based on your above comment.
>
>Sarah.

They are surely authorities in chess and I deeply respect their opinion, that
actually diverge quite a bit from the best elo evaluations regarding comps.
posted here.

w.b.r.
Otello




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