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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger 14.9 Vs Sjeng 12.11 replay of previous game from 33.Qg7....?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 22:37:46 04/09/02

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On April 09, 2002 at 20:01:37, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>As I promised I decided to retract the 33. Qg7..Bd7? since I figured out the
>correct amount of Hashtable to use for Sjeng in order to avoid the blunder.
>Sjeng played the correct move after 33. Qg7.Rd4! but CTP 14.9 knowledge was to
>much for the calculating power of Sjeng. This was a good lesson in which most
>people always consider the Kns or Fritzmark without really taking into
>consideration the Chess Knowledge of each program.


I still think that there is a problem.


I give the analysis of the programmer again when sjeng never liked to play Rd4
and got depth 11.

I also suspect that the only fair way is to replay the game from the first move
and to delete learning files if there are learning files because programs learn
from previous search and pondering also can help because sjeng predicted 33.Qg7.

Maybe Gian can also send a special version that never play unless it gets at
least 200000 nodes per seconds for testing.

I do not know the speed of your celeron but Gian can get an estimate for it
based on the number of nodes per second in the initial position.

Sjeng: go
Middlegame phase.
Time for move : 1000000
 2     267     0      117  Bd5 ??
 2     267     0      442  Bd5 Rd2
 2     267     1      504  Bd5 Rd2
 3     251     1     1378  Bd5 g4 Be4 gxf5 Bxf5
 3     252     1     3119  Bd7 Qe5 e6
 3     252     1     4481  Bd7 Qe5 e6
 4     202     2     4759  Bd7 ??
 4     220     3    10221  Qd5 Qe5 Qxe5 Bxe5
 4     220     4    18812  Qd5 Qe5 Qxe5 Bxe5
 5     170     5    24803  Qd5 ??
 5      80    12    66681  Qd5 Rd2 Qb3 Rxd8+ Kxd8 Qe5 Bd5 Qxf5
 5     171    12    66733  Bd7 !!
 5     164    14    79598  Bd7 Rd2 Be8 Rxd8+ Kxd8 Rd1+ Kc8 Qf8 Qf7
 5     170    17    95238  b6 Qe5 Rd6 Rd2 Rxd2 Bxd2
 5     170    17    95264  b6 Qe5 Rd6 Rd2 Rxd2 Bxd2
 6     120    18   100423  b6 ??
 6      54    41   245262  b6 Qe5 Rd6 Rd2 Bd5 Qxf5+ e6
 6      79    63   390563  Bd5 Qe5 Kd7 Rd2 Ke8 Qxf5 Nf6
 6      79    70   435810  Bd5 Qe5 Kd7 Rd2 Ke8 Qxf5 Nf6
 7      29   129   826151  Bd5 ??
 7       0   250  1668616  Bd5 Rxe7 Nxe7 Qxe7 Rd7 Qf8+ Rd8 Qe7 <Rd7> <Qf8+>
<Rd8> <Qe7> <Rd7> <Q      f8+> <Rd8>
 7      30   300  2008576  Rd3 !!
 7      31   329  2223230  Rd3 Qe5 Rd6 Rd2 Bd7 Rxd6 exd6 Qxd6
 7      31   329  2223264  Rd3 Qe5 Rd6 Rd2 Bd7 Rxd6 exd6 Qxd6
 8       0   559  3722516  Rd3 Qf8+ Kd7 Qb8 b6 Qc7+ Ke8 Rfe2 Qd4+ Kh2 Qh8+ Kg1
Qd4+ <Kh2> <Qh8+>       <Kg1> <Qd4+> <Kh2> <Qh8+> <Kg1>
 8      30   874  5681147  a6 Qb2 Rd7 Rc2 Qd5 Re5 Qd1+ Kf2 Bd5 Rxc5+
 8      51   945  6176780  b6 Qe5 Rd6 Rd2 Bd7 Rxd6 exd6 Qxd6 Qd4+ Qxd4 cxd4
 8      51  1001  6520424  b6 Qe5 Rd6 Rd2 Bd7 Rxd6 exd6 Qxd6 Qd4+ Qxd4 cxd4
 9      21  1099  7184277  b6 Qe5 Rd6 Rd2 Bd5 Red1 Be4 Rxd6 exd6 Qxd6
 9      21  1663 10890774  b6 Qe5 Rd6 Rd2 Bd5 Red1 Be4 Rxd6 exd6 Qxd6
10      10  1966 12982662  b6 Qe5 Rd6 Rd2 Bd5 Qxf5+ Rd7 Kf2 e6 Qf8+ Rd8 Qf7
10      10  3296 21142893  b6 Qe5 Rd6 Rd2 Bd5 Qxf5+ Rd7 Kf2 e6 Qf8+ Rd8 Qf7
11       9  3949 25697271  b6 Qe5 Rd6 Rd2 Bd5 Qxf5+ Rd7 Kf2 Qb3 Red1 Qf3+ Ke1
Nf6


Uri



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