Author: Hristo
Date: 23:48:48 04/09/02
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On April 10, 2002 at 01:24:55, Joshua Lee wrote: >http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=255 > >Kramnik may not know anything about programming but when he says Fritz was >suggesting objectively better moves than Deep Blue Played.....For someone of his >level of play to say such a thing. DB might have had extra knowledge than fritz >or any other program doesn't who really knows.....there is not enough >disclosure. Still i would like to see if anyone has found a position from either >match inwhich DB played a move that is out of Commercials grasp. > >I am pretty sure this is like the thousandth message that asks this question. Yes, other people have talked about this. Kramnik, might, have more than one reason to say that "Fritz" is better than Deep Blue. Some reasons, that we can think of, are better than others. As to the _truth_ ... well, here is the rub, horacio! 1. Fritz _is_ better than Deep Blue, because Deep Blue doesn't exist any more!? This alone can be enough to clame that Fritz is better. 2. There is no evidence, that I know of, that shows a direct comparison of the playing strength of these beasts. Which leaves the whole topic open for speculations ... 3. Kramnik applies the best possible method to determine which of the two programs (machines) is stronger. He evaluates the actuall chess moves that are proposed or made over the course of a game. Most geeks, including me, get, often, stuck on other issues that relate to eval-speed, hash-hits, tb-hits, etc. ... an we often lose the main criteria to determine the strength of a chess program. Nobody here, on this forum, would be able to sustain a direct assault in a regulation game against any of the top chess software. Kramnik can and will! When talking about chess Kramnik (and the like) can prove what thay talk about, the rest of us should sit back and take lessoons. :-) For all intense and purposes Kramnik is correct. Don't be so surprised. In another 5 years your PDA will be better chess player than Deep Blue ever was. :-) Regards, hristo
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