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Subject: Re: Unbelieveable...Kramnik says Fritz is better than deep Blue

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 15:04:54 04/10/02

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On April 10, 2002 at 17:57:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 10, 2002 at 17:28:34, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On April 10, 2002 at 01:24:55, Joshua Lee wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=255
>>>
>>>Kramnik may not know anything about programming but when he says Fritz was
>>>suggesting objectively better moves than Deep Blue Played.....For someone of his
>>>level of play to say such a thing. DB might have had extra knowledge than fritz
>>>or any other program doesn't who really knows.....there is not enough
>>>disclosure. Still i would like to see if anyone has found a position from either
>>>match inwhich DB played a move that is out of Commercials grasp.
>>>
>>>I am pretty sure this is like the thousandth message that asks this question.
>>
>>He was stating the obvious. Fritz6 and Junior6 were already stronger than DB,
>>and I said so at the time.
>>
>>Amir
>
>
>Obvious to _whom_???

It is easy to find people that it is obvious to them (for example Vincent
Diepveen and Kramnik)
I also believe that Fritz7 on good machine is better than Deeper blue.

>
>not anyone in "reality" I don't think...
>
>Or did I miss where Fritz6 and Junior6 beat kasparov in a 6 game match at
>40/2???

It proves nothing.
Junior was also leading 5-0 against Fritz.
Does it mean that Junior was better than Fritz?

Uri



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