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Subject: Re: another Deep Blue question---Robert

Author: David Dory

Date: 02:27:47 04/11/02

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>On April 10, 2002 at 23:18:42, K. Burcham wrote:

>it is one thing to be able to take each move of game two and game six, and find
>at least one program that will play the Deep Blue move.
>
>it is another to find a bad move that Deep Blue played, and find a program >today that will avoid this move and play a better move, and watch the eval >climb.
>
>what if we all agreed that one certain position that Deep Blue played
>was a bad move because_______?
>
>what if we find a program today that does not play this same bad move?
>
>what if we find a program that will play a better move and we can watch eval
>climb after this move?
>
>I know Robert, that in this case you could answer "well if a frog had wings,
>etc".
>
>but i assure you these are honest questions.
>what if the above did happen, what could we conclude?
>kburcham

Honest questions deserve honest answers. You know as well as everyone here, that
even after 25 full games, an honest strength evaluation of a program can get
STARTED.

What could we conclude from a few moves from DB? That's Easy - frogs really
CAN'T fly, even if you glue little wings on them. <grin>

Seriously, how could you or I judge the real value of the moves made by the
computer that beat the highest rated player of all time? Not just in ONE game,
but in a whole match contest?

Trying to evalu8 deep blue is like trying to get those frogs to fly - it just
doesn't get off the ground. <pardon the pun>

If the programs start beating the very top GM's in important matches, with money
on the line to be won and lost -

Then I'll believe the current programs/computers are as good as DB was, because
they will have done what only DB has been able to do so far.

Dave

** No frogs were harmed during the posting of this message!




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