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Subject: Re: Unbelieveable...Kramnik says Fritz is better than deep Blue

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 02:37:15 04/11/02

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On April 11, 2002 at 04:46:01, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On April 10, 2002 at 17:57:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 10, 2002 at 17:28:34, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>On April 10, 2002 at 01:24:55, Joshua Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=255
>>>>
>>>>Kramnik may not know anything about programming but when he says Fritz was
>>>>suggesting objectively better moves than Deep Blue Played.....For someone of his
>>>>level of play to say such a thing. DB might have had extra knowledge than fritz
>>>>or any other program doesn't who really knows.....there is not enough
>>>>disclosure. Still i would like to see if anyone has found a position from either
>>>>match inwhich DB played a move that is out of Commercials grasp.
>>>>
>>>>I am pretty sure this is like the thousandth message that asks this question.
>>>
>>>He was stating the obvious. Fritz6 and Junior6 were already stronger than DB,
>>>and I said so at the time.
>>>
>>>Amir
>>
>>
>>Obvious to _whom_???
>>
>>not anyone in "reality" I don't think...
>>
>>Or did I miss where Fritz6 and Junior6 beat kasparov in a 6 game match at
>>40/2???
>
>
>Bob, take some good advice, you are going to lose this one. I agree, much has to
>do with wishful thinking, you can't fight that :)
>
>Ed

Ed or others, how do you explain Bobs eloquent descriptions of the massive
amount of knowledge, not at expense of calculation speed etc. which was put into
DB?
S.Taylor



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