Author: Uri Blass
Date: 01:23:04 04/12/02
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On April 12, 2002 at 03:24:59, Slater Wold wrote: >Just came back from a 2 week vacation, and boy, it was nice. Also saw Marc >Boulé found his way here; Welcome! > >Now, a DB rant: > >There are at LEAST 100 reasons I can think of why Kramnick would make such a >ridiculous statement. Here are a few: > >1.) to boost interest in the game > >2.) to boost his own "man vs machine" repitore. example: "Kaspy couldn't defend >man against the machine, I CAN!" > >3.) refer to #2 and repeat, "..I can beat Fritz 7, and thus beat DB, and invite >you to pay me $1,000,000 to beat your program! (And a small settlement if I >lose).." > >Fritz 7 is a good program, without a doubt, one of the best for PCs. HOWEVER, >get real. 4M "wiser" nps isn't CLOSE to 200M "wise" nps. No matter how you >look at it. There is an assumption that the 200M are "wise" nps. I believe that if Crafty has no bugs then Crafty17.07 at 200M nps is slightly better than the Fritz that kramnik is going to play but only slightly better than it. I believe that crafty is smarter than deepr blue and the same number of nodes crafty is going to beat deeper blue. I also believe that there is diminishing returns so I do not believe your estimate for Crafty with 200M nodes. 50 elo may be right for the first doubling but every doubling later is going to give only about 90% of the previous doubling. <snipped> >Junior 6 and Junior 7 are seperated by a mere 25 Elo on the SSDF, on the same >exact HW. However Junior 7 on an AMD 1200mhz is 84 Elo points stronger than >Junior 7 on an AMD K6/2 450mhz. I know that Deep Junior 7 gets around 2M nps on >my 2x1.53Ghz system. Now imagine raising that 200M. You use Junior that did not get a significant improvement from Junior6 to Junior7. It may be better to compare Fritz that is the best program based on the ssdf and improved more in a shorter time. Uri
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