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Subject: Re: Is the "are computers GMs" debate laid to rest yet?

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 10:34:49 04/12/02

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On April 12, 2002 at 13:05:58, Otello Gnaramori wrote:

>On April 12, 2002 at 10:55:01, Roy Eassa wrote:
>
>>Maybe someday tens of thousands of hours will be spent by GMs to develop the
>>ability for to win a game that had been played previously only by computers.
>>The human skill of beating strong computer chess opponents is still in its
>>infancy.
>
>That's not true, anticomputer techs are well known from long time...
>


That is like Philidor saying, in the 1700s, that the correct openings or all
chess strategies are known and will never be improved.  (You cannot know what
better techniques will be found in the future!)


>Yet even this early, there are non-GMs who consistently score well
>>against the top programs.  If and when that new skill is improved, spread
>>around, and finally adopted by the top GMs, we may see very different results.
>>
>>Or maybe not.  We'll just have to wait and see.
>

>Programmers are developing powerful anti-gm weapons meanwhile, see e.g. Ed's
>program.


I don't disagree with that point at all.  I am saying that humans are ALSO
developing powerful anti-computer weapons.

Since chess was human-only for centuries, most of the hours of chess programming
thus far have been devoted to winning a GM's game.  Not nearly as many GM hours
have been devoted to winning a computer's game.




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