Author: Torstein Hall
Date: 13:42:18 04/12/02
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On April 12, 2002 at 14:19:21, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>On April 12, 2002 at 13:29:37, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>
>>On April 12, 2002 at 13:24:17, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>
>>>On April 12, 2002 at 08:34:10, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>
>>>>nemeth-games by Tim Krabbe:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess2/honor.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>One quote from there:
>>>
>>>"But perhaps Nemeth's greatest invention is an absurd anti-computer gambit that
>>>I would like to call the Nemeth Gambit. Using it, he beat five of the world's
>>>strongest chess programs in one day.
>>>
>>> The characteristic position arises after: 1.e4 c5 2.Na3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Bc4
>>>Nf6 5.h3 Nxe4 6.Bxf7+ Kxf7 7.Qh5+ Ke6 8.Qg4+ Kd5 9.c4+ dxc3 10.Be3"
>>
>>Read on, Roy...
>>
>>(...)
>>It is possible that Nemeth (like me) went through some trial-and-error before he
>>won these games, but that is not the point; the point is that it is possible to
>>beat the strongest chess programs in the world with the Nemeth Gambit, or with
>>1.d4 h5 2.e4 e5.
>>Of course, computers also find good moves that a human would never think of, and
>>they're a great help in analysis, but what I want to demonstrate is that they
>>don't "play chess". As the above games show, they have passed the capturing
>>test, but they're a long way from passing the Turing test. In spite of all the
>>blustering about Kramnik who will "defend humanity's honor against the computer"
>>(Der Spiegel) and "gain revenge for the human race" (The Telegraph), his
>>upcoming match against some Fritz has, apart from the money involved, no more
>>significance than a match between a cat and a book for the greatest weight.
>>As a defender of humanity's honor, I prefer Nemeth.
>>(...)
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Otello
>
>Thank fore all answers.
>
>This varioation (full) I played on the Fritzserver in Mashine-Room ***Live**
>ageinst Fritz 6 from Manfred Bachman (handle Yoshida):
>
>(Wolkenlos is my handle)
>
>[Event "Wertungspartie, 5m + 0s"]
>[Site "Fritz7Server"]
>[Date "2001.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Wolkenlos"]
>[Black "Yoshida, Fritz6"]
>[ECO "B21"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>
>1. e4 {2} c5 {0} 2. d4 {2} cxd4 {0} 3. h3 {2} Nc6 {9}
>4. Bc4 {18} Nf6 {16} 5. Na3 {1} Nxe4 {11} 6. Bxf7+ {1} Kxf7
>{0} 7. Qh5+ {1} Ke6 {5} 8. Qg4+ {1} Kd5 {13} 9. c4+ {1}
>dxc3 {4} 10. f3 {1} Nd6 {6} 11. Ne2 {5} Ke5 {0} 12. Bg5 {2}
>h5 {18} 13. f4+ {1} Kd5 {7} 14. Nxc3+ {3} Kc5 {8} 15. Qe2
>{13} Kb6 {0} 16. Nd5+ {2} Ka5 {5} 17. b4+ {4} Nxb4 {6}
>18. Qd2 {1} b5 {8} 19. Qxb4+ {3} Ka6 {0} 20. Rc1 {3} Bb7
>{10} 21. Nc7+ {1} Qxc7 {2} 22. Rxc7 {1} Rc8 {5} 23. Rxc8
>{3} Bxc8 {0} 24. O-O {5} Bb7 {0} 25. Rd1 {3} Bc6 {6}
>26. Rxd6 {6} Kb7 {3} 27. Bxe7 {9} Bxe7 {3} 28. Rxd7+ {1}
>Bxd7 {4} 29. Qxe7 {1} Kc8 {2} 30. Qc5+ {1} Kd8 {1} 31. Nxb5
>{Yoshida rinde 1} 1-0
>
>
>Here You see that I not Can win ONLY in my computerroom!
>
>German: ich kannte diese Variante (see game against Fritz 6) und probierte sie
>einfach aus auch gegen F7! So einfach war das.
>
>Eduard
My Fritz 7 played 7...Kg8 in Blitz 5min with a 1500mhz Athlon, so maybee it has
improved a little, but I do not know if its enough to save the day for Fritz.
Torstein
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