Author: Otello Gnaramori
Date: 13:52:50 04/12/02
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On April 12, 2002 at 16:42:18, Torstein Hall wrote:
>On April 12, 2002 at 14:19:21, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On April 12, 2002 at 13:29:37, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>
>>>On April 12, 2002 at 13:24:17, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 12, 2002 at 08:34:10, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>nemeth-games by Tim Krabbe:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess2/honor.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>One quote from there:
>>>>
>>>>"But perhaps Nemeth's greatest invention is an absurd anti-computer gambit that
>>>>I would like to call the Nemeth Gambit. Using it, he beat five of the world's
>>>>strongest chess programs in one day.
>>>>
>>>> The characteristic position arises after: 1.e4 c5 2.Na3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Bc4
>>>>Nf6 5.h3 Nxe4 6.Bxf7+ Kxf7 7.Qh5+ Ke6 8.Qg4+ Kd5 9.c4+ dxc3 10.Be3"
>>>
>>>Read on, Roy...
>>>
>>>(...)
>>>It is possible that Nemeth (like me) went through some trial-and-error before he
>>>won these games, but that is not the point; the point is that it is possible to
>>>beat the strongest chess programs in the world with the Nemeth Gambit, or with
>>>1.d4 h5 2.e4 e5.
>>>Of course, computers also find good moves that a human would never think of, and
>>>they're a great help in analysis, but what I want to demonstrate is that they
>>>don't "play chess". As the above games show, they have passed the capturing
>>>test, but they're a long way from passing the Turing test. In spite of all the
>>>blustering about Kramnik who will "defend humanity's honor against the computer"
>>>(Der Spiegel) and "gain revenge for the human race" (The Telegraph), his
>>>upcoming match against some Fritz has, apart from the money involved, no more
>>>significance than a match between a cat and a book for the greatest weight.
>>>As a defender of humanity's honor, I prefer Nemeth.
>>>(...)
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Otello
>>
>>Thank fore all answers.
>>
>>This varioation (full) I played on the Fritzserver in Mashine-Room ***Live**
>>ageinst Fritz 6 from Manfred Bachman (handle Yoshida):
>>
>>(Wolkenlos is my handle)
>>
>>[Event "Wertungspartie, 5m + 0s"]
>>[Site "Fritz7Server"]
>>[Date "2001.??.??"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "Wolkenlos"]
>>[Black "Yoshida, Fritz6"]
>>[ECO "B21"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>
>>1. e4 {2} c5 {0} 2. d4 {2} cxd4 {0} 3. h3 {2} Nc6 {9}
>>4. Bc4 {18} Nf6 {16} 5. Na3 {1} Nxe4 {11} 6. Bxf7+ {1} Kxf7
>>{0} 7. Qh5+ {1} Ke6 {5} 8. Qg4+ {1} Kd5 {13} 9. c4+ {1}
>>dxc3 {4} 10. f3 {1} Nd6 {6} 11. Ne2 {5} Ke5 {0} 12. Bg5 {2}
>>h5 {18} 13. f4+ {1} Kd5 {7} 14. Nxc3+ {3} Kc5 {8} 15. Qe2
>>{13} Kb6 {0} 16. Nd5+ {2} Ka5 {5} 17. b4+ {4} Nxb4 {6}
>>18. Qd2 {1} b5 {8} 19. Qxb4+ {3} Ka6 {0} 20. Rc1 {3} Bb7
>>{10} 21. Nc7+ {1} Qxc7 {2} 22. Rxc7 {1} Rc8 {5} 23. Rxc8
>>{3} Bxc8 {0} 24. O-O {5} Bb7 {0} 25. Rd1 {3} Bc6 {6}
>>26. Rxd6 {6} Kb7 {3} 27. Bxe7 {9} Bxe7 {3} 28. Rxd7+ {1}
>>Bxd7 {4} 29. Qxe7 {1} Kc8 {2} 30. Qc5+ {1} Kd8 {1} 31. Nxb5
>>{Yoshida rinde 1} 1-0
>>
>>
>>Here You see that I not Can win ONLY in my computerroom!
>>
>>German: ich kannte diese Variante (see game against Fritz 6) und probierte sie
>>einfach aus auch gegen F7! So einfach war das.
>>
>>Eduard
>
>
>My Fritz 7 played 7...Kg8 in Blitz 5min with a 1500mhz Athlon, so maybee it has
>improved a little, but I do not know if its enough to save the day for Fritz.
>
>Torstein
I've already stated here that in blitz games the anticomps techs of Eduard works
quite well.
Unfortunately things changes in regular timing where the comps have the time to
smell the traps, but Eduard usually don't post regular timing games ...
w.b.r.
Otello
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