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Subject: Re: Let's define GM

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:28:24 07/15/98

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On July 15, 1998 at 11:48:59, Fernando Villegas wrote:

>Hi Danniel:
>In this, like in any other field, a tittle is always the result of many
>accumulated results, some explicits and some not. It's clear that just to be
>part of a GM tournament an so to be capable of becoming a GM you must be at
>least an IM invited to be there. And to get 2500 elo you need to win many times
>people with or around that rating. So, in the case of Fritz, he will deserve the
>tittle if he can obtain the same kind of steady, regular results any human
>player need to be tittled as GM. To win here or there is not enough and at most
>is a sign that it could be a GM, If he try to be. In other words, we must not
>mix the meaning of being GM, a formal tittle given according certain scores
>under certain rules, and being capable of being a GM. I think last version of
>Fritz -stronger than the first by a wide margin, I believe- could be capable at
>least to be IM.
>Fernando

This is my problem with Shaun's posts here.  The title "GM" has a very distinct
and tightly-defined meaning.  Playing anonymously is *not* part of the equation.

Anyone that wants to use the term "GM" needs to use the generally-accepted
definition, and *not* create a new definition for an old term.  IE use AGM
(Artificial or Anonymous GM) or PGM (Psuedo-GM) or something else.  But not a
title that has been around for a long time with clear and distinct requirements
in place to earn it.

I believe Fritz might have a chance at earning IM norms, although it is going
to have lots of trouble with anti-computer strategies still.  But IM's still
make enough tactical mistakes that fritz might pull it off.  But a GM norm is
more difficult, and the opposition takes you much more seriously.  And trying
to "hide" fritz behind a human is pointless when you talk about "Fritz is a
GM" because that is not possible in earning a GM title or even a GM norm at
a tournament.



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