Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 09:25:13 04/13/02
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On April 13, 2002 at 06:43:39, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On April 12, 2002 at 13:50:36, Mike S. wrote: > >>On April 12, 2002 at 10:55:11, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>(...) >>>And its back again, so now I have 7,0,0,7 but I'll still trust your analysis. >> >>I have just updated (again), and if I have correctly done everything than >>today's update installs the same engine like yesterday's. Version and file date >>are identical, also the old DOS file comparison program comp.exe says it is >>identical. GUI version is April 12th 2002 now. >> >>I've even done some positions tests again, and the results were identical to >>those of 7.0.0.6, or within +/- one second. >> >>Here are detailed infos on the changes (GUI, Server etc.): >>http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/40162.htm >> >>(only in german though) >> >>Regards, >>Mike > >In the majority of positions I tried, there is no difference between 7.0.0.6 and >7.0.0.7, as you say. But in some others the latter finds the solution 1 ply >later. For instance, in > >[D]8/1p6/p4p1p/2p1P2k/5P2/6pP/1P4P1/6K1 w - - 0 1 ; bm f5 >[D]2r1r1k1/p4pp1/1p1Pn1p1/6q1/P5P1/BP2Pp1P/5P2/Q1RR2K1 b - - 0 1 ; bm Nf4 > >F7.0.0.6 finds f5 at ply 18, F7.0.0.7 at ply 19. >F7.0.0.6 finds Nf4 at ply 14, F7.0.0.7 at ply 15. > >I checked with an AMD 1800+ and 512MB hash, and a notebook PIII-750 with 64MB >hash, both running Windows XP. > >Enrique Enrique, I think that engines are identical! Here: Ich konnte Enriques Angaben nicht folgen (wo sind seine Analysen?)! Ich machs jedenfalls gründlich. Auf einem normalsterblichen PC (bei mir ein P600) mit 128 MB hash ergab sich folgendes: Ich speicherte die Stellungen zunächst in eine Datenbank. Dann lud ich Stellung 1, löschte die HT und startete die Analyse von Fritz 7007: Neue Partie1 8/1p6/p4p1p/2p1P2k/5P2/6pP/1P4P1/6K1 w - - 0 1 Analysis by Fritz 7: 1.e6 Kg6 2.f5+ Kg7 3.Kf1 c4 4.Ke2 a5 5.Ke3 Kf8 6.Ke4 b5 7.Kd5 = (0.00) Tiefe: 12/19 00:00:00 61kN 1.e6 Kg6 2.f5+ Kg7 3.Kf1 c4 4.Ke2 Kf8 5.Ke3 Ke7 6.Kf4 Kd6 7.Ke4 Ke7 8.Kd5 = (0.09) Tiefe: 13/22 00:00:00 88kN 1.e6-- = (-0.19) Tiefe: 14/23 00:00:00 138kN 1.e6 = (-0.19) Tiefe: 14/23 00:00:00 171kN 1.e6 Kg6 2.f5+ Kg7 3.Kf1 b5 4.Ke2 Kf8 5.h4 a5 6.h5 c4 = (0.03) Tiefe: 15/24 00:00:01 313kN 1.e6-- = (-0.25) Tiefe: 16/24 00:00:02 477kN 1.e6 Kg6 2.f5+ Kg7 3.Kf1 b5 4.Ke2 Kf8 5.h4 a5 6.Kd3 Ke7 7.Ke4 c4 8.Ke3 ³ (-0.34) Tiefe: 16/28 00:00:03 623kN 1.e6-- ³ (-0.62) Tiefe: 17/27 00:00:04 955kN 1.e6 Kg6 2.f5+ Kg7 3.Kf1 b5 4.Ke2 a5 5.Kf3 a4 6.Ke4 b4 7.Kd3 Kg8 8.Kc4 µ (-0.81) Tiefe: 17/28 00:00:05 1185kN 1.e6 Kg6 2.f5+ Kg7 3.Kf1 a5 4.Ke2 Kf8 5.Ke3 b5 6.Ke4 a4 7.Kd5 b4 8.Kc4 µ (-0.91) Tiefe: 18/29 00:00:09 2267kN 1.e6-- µ (-1.19) Tiefe: 19/29 00:00:13 3314kN 1.e6 µ (-1.19) Tiefe: 19/29 00:00:14 3661kN 1.f5! µ (-1.16) Tiefe: 19/37 00:00:20 5193kN 1.f5! µ (-1.00) Tiefe: 19/37 00:00:21 5511kN 1.f5! ³ (-0.69) Tiefe: 19/37 00:00:22 5845kN 1.f5! = (-0.06) Tiefe: 19/37 00:00:24 6258kN 1.f5 fxe5 2.h4 b5 3.Kf1 c4 4.Ke2 b4 5.Kf3 Kxh4 6.f6 c3 7.bxc3 bxc3 8.Ke3 ± (0.91) Tiefe: 19/37 00:00:26 6868kN 1.f5 fxe5 2.h4 b5 3.Kf1 c4 4.Ke2 b4 5.Kf3 Kxh4 6.f6 c3 7.bxc3 bxc3 8.Ke3 ± (0.91) Tiefe: 20/37 00:00:29 7825kN 1.f5! ± (1.19) Tiefe: 21/41 00:00:40 10987kN 1.f5! +- (1.47) Tiefe: 21/41 00:00:44 12168kN 1.f5 fxe5 2.h4 b5 3.Kf1 c4 4.Ke2 e4 5.Ke3 b4 6.Kxe4 c3 7.bxc3 b3 8.Kd3 +- (1.72) Tiefe: 21/41 00:00:49 13775kN 1.f5! +- (2.00) Tiefe: 22/42 00:01:10 20067kN, tb=10 (Nemeth, Stuttgart 13.04.2002) Ich beendete die das Analysefenster und löschte wieder die HT. dann startete ich die Analyse der Stellung 2 mit Fritz 7007: Neue Partie2 2r1r1k1/p4pp1/1p1Pn1p1/6q1/P5P1/BP2Pp1P/5P2/Q1RR2K1 b - - 0 1 Analysis by Fritz 7: 1...Txc1 2.Txc1 Dh4 3.De5 Dxh3 4.Dg3 Dxg3+ 5.fxg3 a6 = (0.06) Tiefe: 7/19 00:00:00 82kN 1...Txc1 2.Lxc1 Td8 3.e4 Dc5 4.La3 Dc2 5.Db1 De2 = (0.22) Tiefe: 8/21 00:00:01 265kN 1...Txc1 2.Lxc1 Td8 3.e4 Dh4 4.De5 Dxh3 5.Dg3 Dxg3+ 6.fxg3 a6 = (0.19) Tiefe: 9/24 00:00:02 480kN 1...Txc1 2.Lxc1 Sc5 3.Dc3 Dh4 4.Lb2 f6 5.Dc4+ Kh7 6.Df4 Dxh3 7.Dh2 = (0.09) Tiefe: 10/27 00:00:06 1584kN 1...Txc1 2.Txc1 Td8 3.Td1 Dh6 4.De5 Sg5 5.Lb2 Sxh3+ 6.Kf1 Sg5 7.Kg1 Se6 = (-0.06) Tiefe: 11/30 00:00:17 4861kN 1...Txc1 2.Txc1 Td8 3.Tc2 Dh6 4.Kh2 Sg5 5.Df1 Dh4 6.Tc7 Se4 7.Kg1 a6 = (-0.03) Tiefe: 12/32 00:00:31 9158kN 1...Txc1 2.Txc1 Kh7 3.d7 Td8 4.Td1 Dh6 5.De5 Sg5 6.Lb2 Sxh3+ 7.Kf1 Sg5 8.Kg1 Sh3+ = (0.00) Tiefe: 13/34 00:01:32 28898kN 1...Txc1 2.Txc1 Td8 3.Tc4 Dh6 4.De5 Sg5 5.Dh2 Sxh3+ 6.Kf1 a6 7.Tc6 Dh4 8.Txb6 a5 = (0.22) Tiefe: 14/40 00:03:16 62475kN 1...Tb8! = (0.19) Tiefe: 14/40 00:05:48 113092kN 1...Tb8 2.d7 Ted8 3.Td3 Tb7 4.Tc8 Tbxd7 5.Txd7 Txc8 6.Dd1 Dh4 = (0.12) Tiefe: 14/40 00:06:34 128209kN 1...Tb8 2.d7 Ted8 3.Td3 Tb7 4.Tc8 Tbxd7 5.Txd7 Txc8 6.Dd1 Dh4 7.Dxf3 = (0.12) Tiefe: 15/34 00:09:14 181878kN 1...Sf4! = (0.09) Tiefe: 15/39 00:17:15 339902kN (Nemeth, Stuttgart 13.04.2002) Ich beendete das Fritzprogramm und schlatete den PC ab für exakt 5'. Dann bootete ich neu und wechselte die Engine. dann zuerst wieder Stellung1, das löschgen der HT und Start der Analyse: Fritz 7006 (11.01.02): Neue Partie1 8/1p6/p4p1p/2p1P2k/5P2/6pP/1P4P1/6K1 w - - 0 1 Analysis by Fritz 7: 1.e6 Kg6 2.f5+ Kg7 3.Kf1 c4 4.Ke2 a5 5.Ke3 Kf8 6.Ke4 b5 7.Kd5 = (0.00) Tiefe: 12/19 00:00:00 61kN 1.e6 Kg6 2.f5+ Kg7 3.Kf1 c4 4.Ke2 Kf8 5.Ke3 Ke7 6.Kf4 Kd6 7.Ke4 Ke7 8.Kd5 = (0.09) Tiefe: 13/22 00:00:00 88kN 1.e6-- = (-0.19) Tiefe: 14/23 00:00:00 138kN 1.e6 = (-0.19) Tiefe: 14/23 00:00:00 171kN 1.e6 Kg6 2.f5+ Kg7 3.Kf1 b5 4.Ke2 Kf8 5.h4 a5 6.h5 c4 = (0.03) Tiefe: 15/24 00:00:01 313kN 1.e6-- = (-0.25) Tiefe: 16/24 00:00:02 477kN 1.e6 Kg6 2.f5+ Kg7 3.Kf1 b5 4.Ke2 Kf8 5.h4 a5 6.Kd3 Ke7 7.Ke4 c4 8.Ke3 ³ (-0.34) Tiefe: 16/28 00:00:02 623kN 1.e6-- ³ (-0.62) Tiefe: 17/27 00:00:04 955kN 1.e6 Kg6 2.f5+ Kg7 3.Kf1 b5 4.Ke2 a5 5.Kf3 a4 6.Ke4 b4 7.Kd3 Kg8 8.Kc4 µ (-0.81) Tiefe: 17/28 00:00:05 1185kN 1.e6 Kg6 2.f5+ Kg7 3.Kf1 a5 4.Ke2 Kf8 5.Ke3 b5 6.Ke4 a4 7.Kd5 b4 8.Kc4 µ (-0.91) Tiefe: 18/29 00:00:09 2267kN 1.e6-- µ (-1.19) Tiefe: 19/29 00:00:13 3314kN 1.e6 µ (-1.19) Tiefe: 19/29 00:00:14 3661kN 1.f5! µ (-1.16) Tiefe: 19/37 00:00:19 5193kN 1.f5! µ (-1.00) Tiefe: 19/37 00:00:20 5511kN 1.f5! ³ (-0.69) Tiefe: 19/37 00:00:21 5845kN 1.f5! = (-0.06) Tiefe: 19/37 00:00:23 6258kN 1.f5 fxe5 2.h4 b5 3.Kf1 c4 4.Ke2 b4 5.Kf3 Kxh4 6.f6 c3 7.bxc3 bxc3 8.Ke3 ± (0.91) Tiefe: 19/37 00:00:25 6868kN (Nemeth, Stuttgart 13.04.2002) Die Analyse der Engine beendete ich nun, lud Stellung 2 und löschte wieder die HT. Dann erst (!) wieder Start der Analyse: Neue Partie2 2r1r1k1/p4pp1/1p1Pn1p1/6q1/P5P1/BP2Pp1P/5P2/Q1RR2K1 b - - 0 1 Analysis by Fritz 7: 1...Txc1 2.Txc1 Dh4 3.De5 Dxh3 4.Dg3 Dxg3+ 5.fxg3 a6 = (0.06) Tiefe: 7/20 00:00:00 109kN 1...Txc1 2.Lxc1 Td8 3.e4 Dc5 4.La3 Dc2 5.Db1 De2 = (0.22) Tiefe: 8/21 00:00:01 265kN 1...Txc1 2.Lxc1 Td8 3.e4 Dh4 4.De5 Dxh3 5.Dg3 Dxg3+ 6.fxg3 a6 = (0.19) Tiefe: 9/24 00:00:02 480kN 1...Txc1 2.Lxc1 Sc5 3.Dc3 Dh4 4.Lb2 f6 5.Dc4+ Kh7 6.Df4 Dxh3 7.Dh2 = (0.09) Tiefe: 10/27 00:00:06 1584kN 1...Txc1 2.Txc1 Td8 3.Td1 Dh6 4.De5 Sg5 5.Lb2 Sxh3+ 6.Kf1 Sg5 7.Kg1 Se6 = (-0.06) Tiefe: 11/30 00:00:16 4861kN 1...Txc1 2.Txc1 Td8 3.Tc2 Dh6 4.Kh2 Sg5 5.Df1 Dh4 6.Tc7 Se4 7.Kg1 a6 = (-0.03) Tiefe: 12/32 00:00:30 9158kN 1...Txc1 2.Txc1 Kh7 3.d7 Td8 4.Td1 Dh6 5.De5 Sg5 6.Lb2 Sxh3+ 7.Kf1 Sg5 8.Kg1 Sh3+ = (0.00) Tiefe: 13/34 00:01:31 28898kN 1...Txc1 2.Txc1 Td8 3.Tc4 Dh6 4.De5 Sg5 5.Dh2 Sxh3+ 6.Kf1 a6 7.Tc6 Dh4 8.Txb6 a5 = (0.22) Tiefe: 14/40 00:03:13 62475kN 1...Tb8! = (0.19) Tiefe: 14/40 00:05:44 113092kN 1...Tb8 2.d7 Ted8 3.Td3 Tb7 4.Tc8 Tbxd7 5.Txd7 Txc8 6.Dd1 Dh4 = (0.12) Tiefe: 14/40 00:06:30 128209kN 1...Tb8 2.d7 Ted8 3.Td3 Tb7 4.Tc8 Tbxd7 5.Txd7 Txc8 6.Dd1 Dh4 7.Dxf3 = (0.12) Tiefe: 15/34 00:09:08 181878kN 1...Sf4! = (0.09) Tiefe: 15/39 00:17:03 339902kN (Nemeth, Stuttgart 13.04.2002) Wie man sieht sind die Analysen IDENTISCH (abgesehen von Zeitunterschieden, was normal ist)! Fritz 7.006 (vom 11.01.02) ist von Schachcode identisch mit Fritz 7007! Eduard
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