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Subject: Re: Let's define GM

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 13:20:01 07/15/98

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On July 15, 1998 at 12:47:11, Pat King wrote:

>
>On July 15, 1998 at 11:57:01, Don Dailey wrote:
>
>
>>It would be nice if there was such a title of computer GM.  It should
>>be based on games against humans and not be subject to too much
>>manipulation.
>
>Nice for whom?

  Nice for the whole computer chess community.


>As noted, the way to gain GM status is obtaining norms against
>GMs. A human GM has nothing to gain in playing a computer, and FIDE is unlikely
>to make him. Thus computer entry in tournaments where GM norms are possible will
>seldom if ever be allowed.

  I was thinking of this very thing when I mentioned the logistical
  problems involved.

  I'm starting to believe this is not a worthy goal anyway.  It will
  only be a matter of time when this is routine anyway.  There should
  be a different and higher standard for computer grandmaster.  Perhaps
  it should change with time as computers get better.


>And what is the point of a computer gaining a GM
>title, other than to stroke the ego of the programmers?

What's the point of any title?

If you have never earned a tile or worked hard for one (in any field),
then I can see how you might not "get it."


- Don



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