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Subject: Re: 2 test positions for chess programs ((Junior's results)

Author: blass uri

Date: 00:30:28 07/16/98

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On July 16, 1998 at 00:39:15, blass uri wrote:

>
>On July 15, 1998 at 07:35:10, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On July 14, 1998 at 11:59:33, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>the position
>>>7r/1k2P2P/4p3/1pp5/8/2pp4/1n3PP1/R4K1R
>>>white to play
>>>white should play g4
>the second test position is after the move g4(black should play Nc4 and not
>c2 because after c2 g5 d2 Ke2 d1=queen+
>white is winning(after Nc4 I think white should win but it is not simple like
>after c2)
>g4 and Nc4 are easy for humans but hard for computers

Junior4.6 needs more than an hour to find Nc4
and near 10 hours to find g4

Uri

>
>Uri
>
>>>but computers like e8=Queen Rxe8 h8=Queen Rxh8 Rxh8 and
>>>I think that black is winning instead of losing
>>>
>>>can a computer program find g4 in a reasonable time
>>>or all of them are stupid and do not understand that the white pawns h7 g6 are
>>>stronger than a rook
>>>
>>>Uri
>>Junior needed near 10 hours to find g4
>>I think fritz is not better
>>computer programs do not understand that knight and passed pawns are
>>better than a 2 rooks
>>
>>I believe that most of humans with 2000 elo will not miss g4
>>
>>Uri



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