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Subject: Re: Weird moderation - CCC failed to adress the weirdo's

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 12:40:20 04/14/02

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On April 14, 2002 at 15:25:50, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On April 14, 2002 at 15:00:38, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>>What he is saying is: 'Vincent, I think your argument that he
>>>knows nothing about computerchess is meaningless because it is
>>>unfounded and you regularly use it without substantial evidence to
>>>support it. So I, and possibly other persons don't find it a
>>>convincing argument.'
>>
>>He didn't say that. He said:
>>
>>"Tell us Vincent.Is this your standard sentence to guarantee that you are >always right? I can remember you use it quite often against several different
>>people.Not very charming and serios."
>>
>>That's completely different.
>
>Sure, it's less subtly stated, and more inflammatory, but IMHO it amounts
>to the same thing.

Not at all, he didn't want a reaction to hear anything about what
i find from GM Nunn. Note his GM title is based upon beating HUMANS
not being a computer expert, since i am FM however i get the feeling
people do not understand that my FM title is independant from
being a programmer from a computerchess program.

If Lagershausen who has been brainwashed by German magazines who write in
favour of a certain program, where Nunn also writes regurarly columns in,
then i would have patience with him if he had asked for me to show
why i said i do not regard Nunn as someone who knows much from computerchess.

HE DID NOT WRITE THAT HOWEVER.

He was definitely trying to insult me PERSONAL. He was busy with me and
saying kind of i am an idiot who he doesn't take serious.

This where i have made a program. Played a lot against chessprograms,
and also happen to be a pretty strong player (completely independant
from expertise on computerchess, though helpful to see whether the
thing makes bad moves).

In fact the rating difference between Nunn and me is 262 rating points.
2312 versus 2584 (that's november 2001 list though, not sure whether
either of us has dropped or gone up sincethen).

2500+ means GM, so Nunn is GM. I'm FM with little chance of ever getting GM.

In the eyes of the average german, who are still having a very authocratic
way of thinking about experts, that means he knows more about computerchess
than i have.

*any* question regarding that subject i would accept from Lagershausen.

However he wasn't out for a computerchess technical question. He was
out for a flamewar.

WELL HE GOT IT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THINGS GET MODERATED HERE.

Now you add up in the fire of course. you love wars.

We should do some boxing with lawyers. Just give me an excuse i'd say,
i can find your adress easily because you live close!

>He complains about you using 'knows nothing about computerchess' as an
>argument (to guarantee that you are always right) often and against several
>different people. He says it's not very charming and doesn't sound
>very serious.
>
>The worst I can read into it is that you always want to convince everyone
>that you are always right in a discussion. Huh. I know that's true for me.
>I know it's true for Robert. I think it's right for many people who post
>here. And I also think it's right for you, but you're free to disagree
>with that of course.
>
>>>He didn't state it this way, but this is how I read it. It's
>>
>>PLANET EARTH TO PLANET JURASSICA, WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU LIVE?
>
>On a planet where one must have patience and understanding to get
>along with people?
>
>--
>GCP



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