Author: Guido Schimmels
Date: 08:01:30 07/16/98
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On July 16, 1998 at 09:59:29, Don Dailey wrote: >On July 16, 1998 at 08:58:05, Guido Schimmels wrote: > >> >>On July 15, 1998 at 11:08:34, Danniel Corbit wrote: >> >>>People seem to want to discuss whether or not a computer program is a GM or not. >>> >>>The FIDE list does not contain any computers. >>> >>>Computers are not FIDE GM's. >>> >>>Hence, if we want to talk about computers being GM's or not, we need some new >>>kind of definition. >>> >>>What _exactly_ is a computer GM? >>> >>>Being able to beat one seems pretty irrelevant to me. I'll bet once in a while >>>GM's lose to their kids because they are not paying attention or whatever. >>> >>>If we do not know what we are discussing, then the discussion seems rather >>>pointless. >> >>I don't see why we need a special definition for computer GM. >>Here is an extract of "International Title Regulations of FIDE": >> >>1.1 Grandmaster: >> Obtained by achieving any of the following: >> >>1.11 (GA '93) Two or more GM results (TPR > 2600 ELO) >> in events covering at least 24 games >> (30 games without a round robin or Olympiad) >> and a rating of at least 2500 in the FIDE Rating List current >> at the time the FIDE Congress considers the application, >> or within seven years of the first title result being achieved. >> >>10.1 GM results in tournaments with fewer than three individual GMs are >> not valid. >> >>So a computer is a GM, when it performs consistantly at 2500 Elo level and >>achieves TPRs >2600 once in a while. >>Probably not true for any of today's micros. >> >>- Guido - > >I don't know how to read this Guido. It sounds like you do not have >to maintain the 2500 rating as long as you get two good results within >seven years of each other. Otherwise you have to have a 2500 ELO level >rating at the time you get the last norm. > >It's not important to our discussion, but I am interested in the >correct interpretation of this. > >Any GM's listening? > >- Don As I understand, within a 7-year period you need to: 1) get 2 norms (TPR > 2600) and 2) be ratet >= 2500 in the FIDE Rating List at least *one* time. So if you haven't yet met condition 2) at the time of your second norm, you will be GM as soon as you achieve this second goal (if in time). - Guido -
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