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Subject: Re: Smirin - Shredder: Geschwindigkeit ist nicht...(partial English)

Author: Michael Williams

Date: 17:59:37 04/14/02

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-- Translation Results by SDL International -- Human corrected some words such
as "game" and "move" then just gave up the translation...


Posted by Eduard Nemeth (profile) on April 14, 2002 at 20:33:44:

I analyzed the game "Smirin - Shredder 6.02" with Shredder to see what would
have run, what the speed loss would have meant on my computer (only Single 600
Mhz, with 64 Mb hash)

Result: Shredder would have "at least" not so quickly lost in comparison to that
on the Dual 2X1000 (with 750 Mb hash in addition).

Okay, in the analysis mode I be not able to include the PB-hits, but
nevertheless: I had some critical positions about 3 min calculated. long of S
PB, what on my computer for a 60 min. Party approximately hinkommt. In closed
positions my opinion after the speed scarcely yet something, it brings can even
occur that the program (because the position yards expanse views is missing)
would play even a worse train. So one must consider the Elozuwachs according to
my opinion NEWLY! In the game Comp-Comp, the speed will play always a very large
role, understands itself that of even. In the game against the person, the
matter be to be seen there however totally differently.


Here the Beweis---> Here erstmal the Notation:

[Event "?"]
[site "?"]
[data "2002.04.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Smirin, Ilya"]
[Black "Shredder"]
[Result "1-0"]

1st C4 E5 2nd NC3 NF6 3rd G3 BB4 4th BG2 O-O 5th E4 BXC3 6th BXC3 D6 7th NE2 BG4
8. F3 BE6 9th D3 C5 10th O-O H6 11th H3 A6 12th A4 B6 13th F4 NC6 14th F5 BD7
15th G4 QC7 16th NG3 NA5 17th H4 NH7 18th G5 HXG5 19th HXG5 QB7 20th BE3 B5 21st
AXB5 AXB5 22nd QH5 BXC4 23rd F6 RFC8 24th FXG7 BG4 1-0

In the 9th train, Shredder C5 pulled what is not well (becomes also of Andre
Schulz of Chessbase right criticized). On my computer, Shredder would have
played after about 3 min. following:

[D]rn1q1rk1/ppp2ppp/3pbn2/4p3/2P1P3/2PP1PP1/P3N1BP/R1BQK2R b KQ - 0,1

GM Smirin - Deep Shredder n1q1rk1/ppp2ppp/3pbn2/4p3/2P1P3/2PP1PP1/P3N1BP/R1BQK2R
b KQ - 0,1

Analysis by Shredder 6.02: 9...Sbd7 10.f4 SC5 11.0-0 C6 12.h3 EXF4 13.Lxf4 TB8
14.Tb1 B6 ² (0.33) depth: 12/24 00:01:49 11672kN 9...c6 10.Tb1 B6 11.0-0 SBD7
12.La3 C5 13.f4 SG4 14.d4 ² (0.32) depth: 12/24 00:01:58 12619kN 9...c6 10.Tb1
B6 11.f4 SA6 12.fxe5 DXE5 13.La3 C5 14.0-0 SG4 ² (0.27) depth: 12/24 00:02:05
13426kN 9...Sa6 10.0-0 C6 11.h3 ² (0.26) depth: 12/24 00:02:21 15078kN 9...Sa6
10.0-0 C6 11.h3 KH8 12.f4 EXF4 13.Lxf4 DA5 14.Lxd6 B615.Lxf8 DC5 + ² (0.26)
depth: 12/24 00:02:34 16489kN

Did it plan the train after NA6 c6!? That would have been unambiguously better.
Did in the 10 train Shredder H6 pull? (Also also of A. Schulz right criticized).
The train gives becomes an Angriffsobjekt with what the black king position of
fast zertrümmelt to the white.


[D]rn1q1rk1/pp3ppp/3pbn2/2p1p3/2P1P3/2PP1PP1/P3N1BP/R1BQ1RK1 b - - 0,1 GM Smirin
- Deep Shredder n1q1rk1/pp3ppp/3pbn2/2p1p3/2P1P3/2PP1PP1/P3N1BP/R1BQ1RK1 b - -
0,1 Analysis by Shredder 6.02: 10...Sc6 11.f4 H6 12.h3 B6 13.Lb2 DE7 14.Kh2 EXF4
15.Sxf4 LG4 16.hxg4 ² (0.34) depth: 13/26 00:02:59 20171kN 10...h6 11.f4 B6
12.Ld2 SC6 13.h3 ² (0.33) depth: 13/26 00:03:09 21262kN

To play S pB on my computer with 64 Mb hash necessarily over 3 min. around this
move, and who does not know whether it vorcher NC6 played would have in game
60', well possible! Did in the 16th move Shredder Na5? play? More appropriate
would have followed been means a defense by means of NH7 by F6 (that A. Schulz
just as).

[D]r4rk1/2qb1pp1/ppnp1n1p/2p1pP2/P1P1P1P1/2PP2NP/6B1/R1BQ1RK1 b - - 0,1 GM
Smirin - Deep Shredder 4rk1/2qb1pp1/ppnp1n1p/2p1pP2/P1P1P1P1/2PP2NP/6B1/R1BQ1RK1
b - - 0,1

Analysis by Shredder 6.02: 16...Tfb8 17.g5 HXG5 18.Lxg5 KF8 19.Kh2 TC8 20.Sh5
SE8 21.f6 G6 22.Lh6 KG8 23.Sg7 TAB8 24.Sxe8 ± (0.96) depth: 12/24 00:02:24
17400kN 16...Sh7 17.Sh5 ± (0.95) depth: 12/24 00:02:26 17704kN 16...Sh7 17.Sh5
F6 18.Le3 SG5 19.Db3 SA5 20.Dc2 TFD8 21.Kh2 TAB8 22.Sf4 ² (0.60) depth: 12/24
00:02:36 18827kN 16...Sh7 17.Sh5 F6 18.Le3 SG5 19.Kh2 TFE8 20.Tb1 TAB8 21.Db3 A5
22.Lxg5 HXG5 ² (0.44) depth: 12/24 00:02:45 19875kN

On my computer, Shredder 6.02 would have exactly so after ca. 3 min. yet played.
What do the other mean in addition?

Eduard




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