Author: Roy Eassa
Date: 10:23:54 04/15/02
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On April 15, 2002 at 12:40:09, Mark Young wrote: >On April 15, 2002 at 11:52:41, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>> >>"Can you name any GM that would play a single game that looks as bad as >> that one?" > >I can off the top of my head...and I'm sure I can find them of just about any GM >play. > >But here is one GM for you since that all you asked for. > >GM Vassily Ivanchuk!!! > >[Event "FIDE WCh KO Final"] >[Site "Moscow RUS"] >[Date "2002.01.16"] >[Round "7.1"] >[White "Ponomariov,R"] >[Black "Ivanchuk,V"] >[Result "1-0"] >[WhiteElo "2727"] >[BlackElo "2717"] >[EventDate "2002.01.16"] >[ECO "C11"] > >1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Be7 6. Bxf6 Bxf6 7. Nf3 >O-O 8. Qd2 Be7 9. O-O-O Qd5 10. Nc3 Qa5 11. a3 Nd7 12. Kb1 Qb6 13. Qe3 Nf6 >14. Ne5 Rd8 15. Bc4 Bd7 16. Bb3 Be8 17. Rhe1 Bf8 18. g4 Nd5 19. Qf3 c6 20. >Ne4 Qc7 21. c4 Ne7 22. Ng5 Nc8 23. c5 1-0 I don't think Ivanchuk showed quite the same positional cluelessness in this game as Shredder showed against Smirin. But anyway, my contention is NOT that "Every GM is always better than computers." My contention is this: "Many GMs can, and SOME probably will (within 5 or 10 years), acquire the skills and techniques necessary to consistently outscore the top PC chess programs." I frequently read posts that state that in the last couple years GMs have lost more games than they have won against top PCs. That may be true, but it is COMPLETELY UNRELATED to the contention that: "Many GMs can, and SOME probably will (within 5 or 10 years), acquire the skills and techniques necessary to consistently outscore the top PC chess programs." The contention could be wrong. But I don't think one should completely CLOSE one's mind to the possibility that it may be accurate. There are concrete reasons to believe that future results may differ from past results. And, of course, your mileage may vary. :-)
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