Author: Mark Young
Date: 10:29:56 04/15/02
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On April 15, 2002 at 13:27:06, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 15, 2002 at 12:49:59, Chris Carson wrote: > >>On April 15, 2002 at 11:52:41, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On April 15, 2002 at 08:56:27, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>> >>>>On April 15, 2002 at 08:17:04, Claudio A. Amorim wrote: >>>> >>>>>So, are these the programs supposed to play at a 2700 level? Sure, they win many >>>>>games against strong humans, but... Where is their chess competency? Shredder´s >>>>>errors against Smirin were so elementary that they would not fit well in a >>>>>strong club player´s blitz game. >>>> >>>>Let's not go crazy over ONE game! we need to ask these questions after the >>>>match, also you can not say "So, are these the programs supposed to play at a >>>>2700 level?" when this is a games based on one programs performance! >>>>Other than that i agree, it was not pretty... >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Jonas >>> >>> >>>I think the thing that troubles _some_ of us greatly is this question: >>> >>>"Can you name any GM that would play a single game that looks as bad as >>> that one?" >> >>Kasparov (2800+) vs DBII the final game. > > >Wasn't even close. that game had nothing to do with not understanding >king safety or anything else. It was just a tactical error resulting from >(supposedly) playing the moves in the wrong order. Ivanchuk showed bad "KING SAFETY" in his loss I showed. > >> >>> >>>Of course, questions like "OK, how can a program play like a 2600+ in one game >>> then play like a 1900- in another game?" and that _is_ a good question. But >>>as the old proverb goes, "the chain is only as strong as its weakest link." IE >>>Smirin could lose the remainder of the games (not likely of course) and it would >>>_still_ be difficult to call this a "GM performance" after a game like that... >>> >>>GMs do have bad days. But not _that_ bad. It perfectly highlighted just how >>>weakly programs evaluate king-safety. _all_ programs...
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