Author: Keith Evans
Date: 11:54:48 04/15/02
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On April 15, 2002 at 00:18:23, Tom Likens wrote: > > >Some comments interspersed below and maybe a little food for thought :) > >On April 14, 2002 at 12:08:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On April 13, 2002 at 17:00:05, Amir Ban wrote: >> >>>On April 12, 2002 at 15:04:54, Tom Likens wrote: > >> - i can't afford a dollar or 10 million to do it. > >Yeah, the cost to do it "right" are ridiculous. Mask NRE costs alone for >a 0.13 micron chip at TSMC are roughly $1 million. A seat of synopsys costs >100k+ The Avant! place and route software is another million (and let's not >forget the salary of the poor ASIC engineers who actually have to do the work). >Yep, 10 million feels about right. > And you have to take into account that some companies won't even build your chip if they are not convinced that they'll make money on it. (I'm assuming that you wouldn't necessarily go to TSMC for something like this - maybe NEC, Toshiba, Fujitsu,... Get them to handle the back end.) This was a big problem a couple of years ago, but may not be as big of an issue today. We had a hell of a time getting anybody to speak with us at first about our project, which has a huge potential market. If you're designing a chess chip with estimated sales of only hundreds or thousands a year, well ... Keith
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