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Subject: Re: Smirin vs. Shredder - a question

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:22:49 04/15/02

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On April 15, 2002 at 13:48:29, Roy Eassa wrote:

>On April 15, 2002 at 12:52:33, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On April 15, 2002 at 12:49:59, Chris Carson wrote:
>>
>>>On April 15, 2002 at 11:52:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 15, 2002 at 08:56:27, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 15, 2002 at 08:17:04, Claudio A. Amorim wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>So, are these the programs supposed to play at a 2700 level? Sure, they win many
>>>>>>games against strong humans, but... Where is their chess competency? Shredder´s
>>>>>>errors against Smirin were so elementary that they would not fit well in a
>>>>>>strong club player´s blitz game.
>>>>>
>>>>>Let's not go crazy over ONE game! we need to ask these questions after the
>>>>>match, also you can not say "So, are these the programs supposed to play at a
>>>>>2700 level?" when this is a games based on one programs performance!
>>>>>Other than that i agree, it was not pretty...
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>Jonas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I think the thing that troubles _some_ of us greatly is this question:
>>>>
>>>>"Can you name any GM that would play a single game that looks as bad as
>>>> that one?"
>>>
>>>Kasparov (2800+) vs DBII the final game.
>>
>
>>Yes, that one must be the best of all. Really a awful game by the best GM of our
>>age.
>
>
>Is it safe to conclude from ONE very bad move by Kasparov (playing a known line
>with the wrong order of moves, and after which he was LOST) that the following
>is true:
>
>"Computers are definitely stronger chess players than any human will ever be,
>and anybody who thinks differently is a fool."

1)The assumption is wrong:

The problem in the game that kasparov lost was not only one very bad move.

he played many bad moves after he got an opening that he was not prepared to
play.

2)one bad game does not prove that kaparov is weaker than deeper blue.

Uri



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