Author: martin fierz
Date: 13:41:16 04/15/02
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On April 15, 2002 at 02:52:29, Michael Williams wrote:
>On April 15, 2002 at 01:03:23, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On April 15, 2002 at 00:38:46, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>
>>>On April 14, 2002 at 16:16:57, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>>
>>>>[Event "?"]
>>>>[Site "?"]
>>>>[Date "????.??.??"]
>>>>[Round "?"]
>>>>[White "GM Smirin"]
>>>>[Black "Deep Shredder"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "A22"]
>>>>[Annotator "Frederic"]
>>>>[PlyCount "48"]
>>>>
>>>>1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. g3 Bb4 4. Bg2 O-O 5. e4 Bxc3 6. bxc3 d6 7. Ne2 Bg4 8. f3
>>>>Be6 9. d3 {Time: 57:13 - 57:13} 9... c5 {
>>>>Jeremia: The open b-line is good for White} 10. O-O h6 11. h3 a6 12. a4 {
>>>>Dual Pentium Intel 1 GHz 750 MB RAM. Time 53:07 - 55:32} 12... b6 13. f4 Nc6
>>>>14. f5 Bd7 15. g4 {Time 52:04 - 53:09} 15... Qc7 {
>>>>A typical anti-computer crush, people think} 16. Ng3 {"Smirin is going for
>>>>mate!" (EJ) - "Don't count Shredder out, counterplay can come in many ways"
>>>>(Hytnen)} 16... Na5 17. h4 Nh7 {"Smirin fumbles and drops Pocket Fritz on the
>>>>floor" (Longshanks) - Time 48:22 - 48:40} 18. g5 hxg5 19. hxg5 {
>>>>"Hallali, oooohhhh" -- Hiarcs 8: +1.55} 19... Qb7 {
>>>>Fritz wants Qh5 at 11 ply. Hiarcs 8 agrees, with +2.59} 20. Be3 {
>>>>Time 44:19 - 44:45 Geordi: "Shredder's radar seems to be busted!"} 20... b5 {
>>>>Tiger: 1.66 Sleepy: Smirin is kicking himself for not playing Qh5 right away.}
>>>>21. axb5 axb5 22. Qh5 {Siam: "Boooommm" Fritz 1.78, Hiarcs 8: 2.47} 22... bxc4
>>>>23. f6 {Is Shredder playing badly or Smirin brilliantly? Boris: Shredder must
>>>>keep its cool now. Hiarcs: +3.30! Time: 42:56 - 41:25 "Poor Shreddy" (Ognaramr)
>>>>Jeremia: "Go, Smirin, go, go, go!" Knallo: Think of it as a win for humanity!
>>>>Smirin has left the board. Black is down ot 33 minutes.} 23... Rfc8 24. fxg7 {
>>>>Karabella: Hunting Red October! Woodcrusher: Hasta la vista, Shredder! Hiarcs:
>>>>+6.38! Henni: Shredder overlooked king safety badly. "Smirin is in the butt
>>>>kickin business" (NYTed)} 24... Bg4 {Fly: Call Shredder's mom and tell her
>>>>he's not coming home. Times: 40:35 - 20:10. LeMagician: "I want to see MATE!"
>>>>Hiarcs: 9.27 for White. Krennwurzn: "Shredder to God: please let him blunder!"}
>>>>1-0
>>>
>>>Has anyone bothered to pinpoint the decisive mistake from Shredder?
>>>
>>>Peter
>>
>>hi peter,
>>see comments on chessbase website.
>>http://www.chessbase.com/events/games/2002_smirin/smirin.htm
>>they give 14.f5 +- before that it's 7...Bg4? 8...Be6? 9...c5? 10...h6? - a whole
>>series of awful moves. probably its already lost there. BTW, this is nearly the
>>game van wely - fritz SSS of the dutch championship.
>>
>>aloha
>> martin
>
>I'm really surprised that this opening idea was not patched up by updating
>Shredder's opening book before the game, unless this was not allowed.
>If it was not allowed, then we are wasting time to have this game 'replayed'
it was not an exact replay. the first few moves of the shredder game:
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. g3 Bb4 4. Bg2 O-O 5. e4 Bxc3 6. bxc3 d6 7. Ne2 Bg4 8. f3
Be6 9. d3 {Time: 57:13 - 57:13} 9... c5 {
and the fritz sss game:
[White "Van Wely,L"]
[Black "Fritz SSS"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 Nc6 4. Nc3 Bb4 5. a3 Bxc3 6. bxc3 O-O 7. e4 a6 8.
a4 d6 9. d3 Bg4 10. f3 Bd7 11. Ne2 Qc8 12. h3 b6 13. f4 Be6 14. f5 Bd7 15.
g4 Ne8 16. Ng3 Qd8 17. g5 Bc8 18. h4 f6 19. Qh5 Na5 20. Ra3 Qe7 21. Nf1 Nc6
22. Ne3 Qd7 23. g6 h6 24. Ng4 Ra7 25. Rg1 1-0
it is a "replay in spirit" - showing that a) you cannot fix everything by simply
adding line after line after line to your opening book, and b) that shredder is
no better than fritz sss at the time in understanding what's coming... black
should play a c6-d5-plan in this position, standard, counter white's flank
attack with a center break. the replay is that both programs played Bg4? f3 Be6?
(where it will be attacked again after f5), and did not try to open the center -
instead, they just moved their pieces and waited for white to move in for the
kill.
aloha
martin
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