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Subject: Re: Smirin vs. Shredder - a question

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 22:53:45 04/15/02

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On April 15, 2002 at 12:13:37, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 15, 2002 at 11:53:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 15, 2002 at 10:02:48, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On April 15, 2002 at 08:56:27, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 15, 2002 at 08:17:04, Claudio A. Amorim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>So, are these the programs supposed to play at a 2700 level? Sure, they win many
>>>>>games against strong humans, but... Where is their chess competency? Shredder´s
>>>>>errors against Smirin were so elementary that they would not fit well in a
>>>>>strong club player´s blitz game.
>>>>
>>>>Let's not go crazy over ONE game! we need to ask these questions after the
>>>>match, also you can not say "So, are these the programs supposed to play at a
>>>>2700 level?" when this is a games based on one programs performance!
>>>>Other than that i agree, it was not pretty...
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Jonas
>>>
>>>Thanks, Jonas people here are precipitating the outcome already based on one
>>>single lost by Deep Shredder. I would like to point out that even Kasparov
>>>himself lost several games in less than 35 moves to players less than 2700. It
>>>is NOT that Computers programs which are estimated to be rated 2700 has
>>>performed like a 1700, it simply did not calculated the outcome of the King Side
>>>attack.
>>>
>>>Pichard
>>
>>
>>Not "did not calculate".  Instead, "did not understand"...
>
>Computers understand nothing.
>They only calculate.
>
>The evaluation function is only calculation based on a formula that the
>programmmer told the computer.

Yes, this is correct.

That's why in order to make a good opening book I try to understand this and
find out the resulting weaknesses and strong points which every player has, no
matter if it is a chess program or a human player.

You are quite competent, but this is not a secret:-))

Regards
Sandro
>
>Uri



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