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Subject: Re: Did Smirin have an easy win in game 2?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:59:15 04/16/02

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On April 16, 2002 at 08:39:35, Jouni Uski wrote:

>On April 16, 2002 at 06:05:19, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On April 16, 2002 at 05:52:55, Michael Vox wrote:
>>
>>>On April 15, 2002 at 18:44:10, Amir Ban wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Hello Amir,
>>>
>>>I left Fritz 7b over night for eight hours on a 1.2 ghz with 256mg hash.  This
>>>is the analysis -1.06.  Fritz does not find a winning line only an edge for
>>>Black.  I was hoping my Nalimov tb's would eventually help Fritz pickup the
>>>winning line but it did not occur
>>>
>>>
>>>[D}8/8/2kP1n2/4pppp/6P1/B2K1P1P/8/8 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Fritz 7:
>>>
>>>38...hxg4--
>>>ยต  (-1.06)    Depth: 25/54   02:23:16  5204420kN, tb=467316
>>>(X, X 16.04.2002)
>>
>>
>>Fritz is a null mover and I doubt if it can find things here.
>>I do not know if it disable null move here but I know from experience that there
>>are positions that at least an older version(Deep Fritz) can never find the
>>right move.
>>
>>I think that it may be better to use yace because
>>I believe that this program does no unsound pruning and verify no zunzwang based
>>n search to reduced depth so in theory it can find every tactics if you search
>>deep enough.
>>
>>
>>Uri
>
>If You set selectivity to 0 in Fritz7 engine parameters, it seems to find all
>moves, which cause problem by zugzwang!
>
>Jouni

Yes but it does the engine weaker.

I do not think that not using null move is the solution but using null move with
zunzwang verification.

Uri



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