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Subject: Re: GM Smirin vs 4 comps - Match Predictions

Author: Mark Young

Date: 10:48:19 04/16/02

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On April 16, 2002 at 13:22:57, Chris Carson wrote:

>On April 16, 2002 at 12:33:43, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>GM Smirin results will depend on how well he will be able to play with white. If
>>GM Smirin is able to play closed positions as in game 1 he may be able to win by
>>more. It is much harder to force a closed position with advantage with black.
>>The opening books of the programs is going to be key in this match. The deeper
>>and wider the book for the programs the better chance they will have in this
>>match.
>>
>>I see this match as a battle of openings, and it is one the programmers can win,
>>but a human like GM Smirin has the advantage.
>>
>>Tiger in my mind has the best chance of winning its 2 game match with GM Smirin.
>>It seems to be able to play well even if knocked out of theory early with a
>>closed position. Shredder seems helpless, Hiarcs is a unknown to me, Junior is a
>>question mark also. I have seen it play like Shredder in closed positions, but
>>the current version is an unknown.
>>
>>It will be interesting to compare the results of the games played past move 10
>>while still in theory and those below that number.
>
>You could be right about Tiger, could win both games.  Tiger is the strongest
>against humans, perhaps the extra day of preparation against Tiger will not
>help.
>
>I am still amazed that people claim the programs are low rated (although the
>number of people claiming this gets smaller), the combined TPR for the 16 games
>will be very strong.  GM Smirin would need to win this match by two points just
>to bring the comps down to 2650 and some of the programs will be above that
>number and a couple below.  This hw is not the fastes either, reinforcing that
>rating of 2700+ by top programs on fastest hw.

To some people the computers are only as good as their last win or loss. If they
lose to a GM they are no longer GM level. If they draw it also shows they are
weak. Only wins seem to count in some minds. If they lose quickly it shows more
then if they lose a long game, as if it counts for more in the stats. I don't
understand peoples logic, because some here know better.

What if Shredder loses both of its games, and all other programs play even or
one program plays +1. GM Smirin still wins the match, and all the programs will
be labeled losers. If one program fails, they all will fail. This logic has
already started.



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