Author: Vine Smith
Date: 19:14:55 04/17/02
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On April 17, 2002 at 21:34:28, Slater Wold wrote: >On April 17, 2002 at 21:02:28, Vine Smith wrote: > >>On April 17, 2002 at 13:26:34, K. Burcham wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>Deep Blue vs Kasparov 1997 Six game match >>> >>>if you have any Deep Blue positions that were played in the six game match, that >>>you feel are very difficult for todays programs, could you please post them >>>here. I will check to make sure I have them. >>>If you have any positions you feel that cannot be found by todays programs, >>>please state that with the position please. >>>I am trying to compile the complete list of Deep Blue moves that anyone thinks >>>cannot be found, or played by todays programs. probably have most--but you might >>>have one i overlooked. >>>If you have read somewhere about a Deep Blue position that someone thought was >>>too difficult for todays programs, please post with position and game number. >>> >>>question everything, >>>kburcham >> >>This is actually a counter-example, a failure by DB to find its best chance that >>Junior 7 (but not Fritz6, Crafty 18.10, Yace 0.99.56, or Tiger 14.0) sees in >>about 6 minutes on a PIII-850 (so, presumably, in tournament time on a faster >>machine). Several annotators believed this was DB's last chance to draw game 1: >>3rr1k1/1p6/2p3P1/4nP1p/pP2p3/P1B1NbP1/2P3B1/5RK1 b - - 0 36 >>Instead of 36...Kf8 as played by DB here, 36...Ng4 gives good drawing chances >>according to Benjamin's notes from Informant, and Goodman and Keene's book on >>the match. Incidentally, I have a PGN file of Game 1 compiling all notes I could >>find from various sources, including Seirawan, Nunn, Goodman/Keene, >>Khodarkovsky/Shamkovich, Henley, and Benjamin amongst others, as well as >>excerpts from the Deep Blue log files for the game. If you're interested, I >>could e-mail this to you. >> >>Regards, >>Vine Smith > >W,S - Deep Junior 7 >3rr1k1/1p6/2p3P1/4nP1p/pP2p3/P1B1NbP1/2P3B1/5RK1 b - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Deep Junior 7: > >1...b6 2.Bxe5 Rxe5 > = (0.19) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >1...b6 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.f6 Rxe5 4.f7+ Kg7 5.Kxg2 h4 > ² (0.28) Depth: 9 00:00:00 23kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rf4 c5 4.bxc5 Nc6 5.g7+ > = (0.04) Depth: 9 00:00:00 39kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rf4 c5 4.bxc5 Nc6 5.g7+ > = (0.04) Depth: 9 00:00:00 39kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rf4 c5 4.bxc5 Nc6 5.g7+ > = (0.04) Depth: 9 00:00:00 39kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rf4 c5 4.bxc5 Nc6 5.g7+ > = (0.04) Depth: 9 00:00:00 39kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rf4 c5 4.bxc5 Nc6 5.g7+ > = (0.04) Depth: 9 00:00:00 39kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rf4 c5 4.bxc5 Nc6 5.g7+ > = (0.04) Depth: 9 00:00:00 39kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rf4 c5 4.bxc5 Nc6 5.g7+ > = (0.04) Depth: 9 00:00:00 39kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rf4 c5 4.bxc5 Nc6 5.g7+ > = (0.04) Depth: 9 00:00:00 39kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rf4 c5 4.bxc5 Nc6 5.g7+ > = (0.04) Depth: 9 00:00:00 39kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rh1 Rd6 4.Rxh5 Nxg6 5.fxg6 Rxg6 > ² (0.46) Depth: 12 00:00:00 503kN >1...b6 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.Kxg2 Rxe5 4.Nc4 Red5 5.f6 Rg5 6.f7+ Kf8 7.Rf6 > ² (0.37) Depth: 12 00:00:00 503kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.Kxg2 Rxe5 4.f6 Rg5 5.g7+ Kg8 6.Kh3 > ² (0.26) Depth: 12 00:00:00 708kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.Kxg2 Rxe5 4.Rh1 Rd2+ 5.Kf1 Re8 6.Rxh5 Red8 7.Rh8+ Kg7 >8.Rxd8 > ² (0.35) Depth: 15 00:00:01 3447kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxe5 Rxe5 3.Bxf3 exf3 4.Rxf3 b5 5.Kf2 Kg7 6.Ke2 Ree8 7.Rf1 > ² (0.35) Depth: 18 00:00:18 45572kN >1...Ng4 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rd1+ 4.Bf1 b5 5.Kf2 Rc1 6.Bd3 Rd8 7.Bf6 Rf8 8.Bb2 Rb1 > = (0.00) Depth: 18 00:01:12 144859kN > >(W, 17.04.2002) > >W,S - Shredder Paderborn >3rr1k1/1p6/2p3P1/4nP1p/pP2p3/P1B1NbP1/2P3B1/5RK1 b - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Shredder Paderborn: > >1...Bxg2 2.Rf4 Nxg6 3.Kxg2 > µ (-1.24) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Nf3 3.f6 > µ (-1.24) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 b5 3.Kf2 > µ (-0.98) Depth: 2/4 00:00:00 >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 b5 3.Kf2 > µ (-0.91) Depth: 2/4 00:00:00 >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 b5 3.Kf2 > µ (-0.91) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00 >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 b5 3.Kf2 > µ (-0.91) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Kf2 Rd1 4.Rxd1 > ³ (-0.66) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rf4 Nf3 4.f6 > ³ (-0.43) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >1...b6 2.Bh3 Ng4 3.Nxg4 hxg4 4.Kf2 gxh3 > ³ (-0.44) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >1...b6 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.Kxg2 Rd2+ 4.Rf2 Rxf2+ 5.Kh1 > ³ (-0.53) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 Nh2 4.Rd1 Rxd1 5.Nxd1 > ³ (-0.54) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >1...Kf8 2.Bh3 Be2 3.Rf4 Nc4 > ³ (-0.59) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 Nh2 4.Rh1 Ng4+ 5.Ke2 > ³ (-0.49) Depth: 6/12 00:00:00 >1...b6 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.Nc4 Bxf1 4.Nxb6 > ³ (-0.50) Depth: 6/12 00:00:00 >1...b6 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.Kxg2 Rd2+ 4.Kh3 Rxe5 > ³ (-0.53) Depth: 6/12 00:00:00 >1...b6 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.Kxg2 Rxe5 4.f6 Rg5 > ³ (-0.36) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 81kN >1...b5 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.Kxg2 Rxe5 4.f6 Rg5 > ³ (-0.37) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 119kN >1...b5 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.Kxg2 Rxe5 4.f6 Rg5 > ³ (-0.43) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 123kN >1...b5 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 Kf8 4.Rh1 h4 5.gxh4 c5 > = (-0.18) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 170kN >1...b5 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 Kf8 4.Rh1 c5 5.Rxh5 > = (0.08) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 190kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 Nd4 4.Bxd4 Rxd4 5.f6 > = (0.07) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 229kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 Nd4 4.Bxd4 Rxd4 5.Rh1 c5 6.bxc5 > = (-0.12) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 247kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rf4 Nf3 4.g7+ Kf7 5.Rh4 Nxh4+ 6.Kf2 b5 7.g8Q+ Kxg8 8.gxh4 > = (-0.13) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 275kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rf4 Nf3 4.f6 Re6 5.Kf2 b5 > = (-0.14) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 312kN >1...b6 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.Kxg2 Rxe5 4.Rh1 Rd2+ 5.Kf1 c5 6.Rxh5 cxb4 > = (-0.15) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 329kN >1...b6 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.Kxg2 Rxe5 4.f6 Rd2+ 5.Rf2 Rxf2+ 6.Kxf2 Rg5 > = (-0.24) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 341kN >1...b6 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 c5 4.bxc5 Kf8 5.cxb6 > = (0.01) Depth: 9/18 00:00:00 563kN >1...b6 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 Nd4 4.f6 Kf8 5.Bxd4 Rxd4 6.Ke2 Red8 > = (0.14) Depth: 9/18 00:00:00 614kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 > = (0.13) Depth: 9/18 00:00:00 622kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Ng4 3.Nxg4 b5 4.Rh1 c5 5.Rxh5 cxb4 > = (0.13) Depth: 9/18 00:00:01 762kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 Nd4 4.Bxd4 Rxd4 5.Rd1 Rxd1 6.Nxd1 b5 > = (0.12) Depth: 9/18 00:00:01 814kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 Nd4 4.Rh1 Nb5 5.Bb2 Rd2+ 6.Ke1 Red8 7.Rxh5 > = (-0.01) Depth: 9/18 00:00:01 854kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Nxe3 3.f7+ Kf8 4.fxe8Q+ Kxe8 5.Rf2 Bxg2 6.Rxg2 Nxg2 7.Kxg2 > = (-0.02) Depth: 9/18 00:00:01 915kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Nxe3 3.f7+ Kf8 4.fxe8Q+ Rxe8 5.Rxf3+ exf3 6.Be1 > ³ (-0.37) Depth: 9/18 00:00:01 962kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Nxe3 3.f7+ Kf8 4.Bxf3 Nxc2 5.fxe8Q+ Kxe8 6.Bxe4 Nxa3 > ³ (-0.37) Depth: 9/18 00:00:01 983kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Nxe3 3.f7+ Kf8 4.Bxf3 Nxc2 5.fxe8Q+ Rxe8 6.Bxh5+ Ke7 > = (-0.12) Depth: 10/20 00:00:01 1086kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Nxe3 3.f7+ Kf8 4.Bxf3 Nxc2 5.fxe8Q+ Kxe8 6.Bxe4 Nxb4 7.Bxb4 > ² (0.38) Depth: 10/20 00:00:01 1123kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Re6 3.Bxf3 exf3 4.Rxf3 Nxf6 5.Bxf6 Rf8 6.g4 Rfxf6 7.Rxf6 Rxf6 >8.gxh5 > ± (0.80) Depth: 10/20 00:00:01 1270kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 b6 3.Rh1 b5 4.Rxh5 Rd6 5.Kf2 Kf8 6.Rh8+ Kg7 > ± (0.79) Depth: 10/20 00:00:02 1517kN >1...Bxg2 2.Kxg2 Rd7 3.Rh1 c5 4.bxc5 Rc7 5.Nd5 Rc6 6.Rxh5 Rxc5 > ± (0.74) Depth: 10/20 00:00:02 1762kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > ± (0.73) Depth: 10/20 00:00:02 1794kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 c5 4.Rh1 cxb4 5.Nf1 bxc3 6.Rxh5 > ² (0.38) Depth: 10/20 00:00:02 1829kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 Nd4 4.Rh1 Nb5 5.Bb2 Rd2+ 6.Ke1 Red8 7.Rxh5 > = (-0.01) Depth: 10/20 00:00:02 1924kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 Nd4 4.Rh1 Nb5 5.Bb2 c5 6.Rxh5 cxb4 7.axb4 > = (-0.02) Depth: 11/22 00:00:03 2637kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 Rd2 5.f6 Rg5 6.g7+ Kf7 7.Nc4 Rd4 8.Na5 >Rb5 > = (0.20) Depth: 12/24 00:00:05 4266kN >1...b5 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 c5 5.bxc5 Rxc5 6.Kf2 Kg7 7.Rf4 > = (0.19) Depth: 12/24 00:00:07 5723kN >1...b5 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 Kg7 5.g4 hxg4 6.Nxg4 Re2 7.Rf2 Rdd2 8.Rxe2 >Rxe2 > = (0.04) Depth: 12/24 00:00:07 5930kN >1...b5 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 Kg7 5.Kf1 c5 6.g4 Rde8 7.f6+ Kxg6 8.bxc5 >Kf7 9.gxh5 Rxh5 > = (0.05) Depth: 13/25 00:00:10 7775kN >1...b5 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 Kg7 5.Kf1 c5 6.g4 h4 7.bxc5 Rxc5 8.Ke2 Rc3 >9.Rh3 Rxa3 > = (-0.04) Depth: 14/26 00:00:16 12363kN >1...b5 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 Kg7 5.g4 hxg4 6.Nxg4 Re2 7.Rf2 Rd1+ 8.Kg2 >Rdd2 9.Rxe2 > = (-0.11) Depth: 15/27 00:00:26 19651kN >1...b5 2.Kf2 Ng4+ 3.Nxg4 hxg4 4.f6 Re6 5.Ke3 Rdd6 6.Bxf3 gxf3 7.g4 Kf8 8.g5 c5 >9.bxc5 > = (0.13) Depth: 16/28 00:00:54 40960kN >1...b5 2.Kf2 Ng4+ 3.Nxg4 hxg4 4.f6 Re6 5.Ke3 Rdd6 6.Bxf3 gxf3 7.g4 Kf8 8.g5 Rxf6 >9.Bxf6 > ² (0.38) Depth: 17/29 00:01:48 78577kN >1...b5 2.Kf2 Ng4+ 3.Nxg4 hxg4 4.f6 e3+ 5.Kg1 Kf8 6.Bxf3 gxf3 7.Rxf3 Re6 8.Kf1 >Rd1+ 9.Ke2 Kg8 > ± (0.76) Depth: 17/29 00:02:15 98480kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 Rd2 5.Kf1 b5 6.f6 > ± (0.75) Depth: 17/29 00:02:45 119178kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 c5 5.b5 > ² (0.40) Depth: 17/29 00:03:04 133207kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 Kg7 5.Kf1 Rd4 6.Ke2 Kf6 7.c3 Rd8 8.Rf4 >Rde8 9.g4 h4 > = (0.08) Depth: 17/29 00:03:45 162499kN >1...Kf8 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 Kg7 5.Kg2 Re4 6.f6+ Kxg6 7.Kh3 Rxe3 8.Kg2 >Rxa3 9.Rxa3 Kxf6 > = (0.01) Depth: 18/30 00:05:35 239948kN > >(W, 17.04.2002) > >W,S - Deep Fritz >3rr1k1/1p6/2p3P1/4nP1p/pP2p3/P1B1NbP1/2P3B1/5RK1 b - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Deep Fritz: > >1...Ng4! > ³ (-0.31) Depth: 2/9 00:00:00 >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7 2.Bxf3 Nxf3+ 3.Kf2 > = (-0.16) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 19kN >1...Rd7-- > = (0.00) Depth: 6/15 00:00:00 26kN >1...Rd7-- 2.Bxe5 Bxg2 3.Kxg2 Rxe5 4.f6 Kf8 > ² (0.62) Depth: 6/19 00:00:00 32kN >1...Bxg2! > ² (0.59) Depth: 6/19 00:00:00 34kN >1...Bxg2! 2.Kxg2 Kf8 3.Rh1 Ng4 4.Nxg4 hxg4 5.Rh8+ Ke7 6.Rh7+ Kd6 > ² (0.37) Depth: 6/19 00:00:00 43kN >1...b6! > ² (0.34) Depth: 6/19 00:00:00 45kN >1...b6! 2.Bxf3 > = (0.19) Depth: 6/19 00:00:00 50kN >1...Ng4! > = (0.00) Depth: 6/19 00:00:00 63kN >1...Ng4! 2.Nxg4 hxg4 3.f6 Kf8 4.Kh2 b6 > = (-0.06) Depth: 6/19 00:00:00 68kN >1...Ng4 2.Nxg4 hxg4 3.f6 Kf8 4.b5 c5 5.b6 > = (0.22) Depth: 7/17 00:00:00 91kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Nxe3 3.Bxf3 exf3 > = (0.22) Depth: 8/22 00:00:00 233kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Nxe3 3.Bxf3 exf3 4.f7+ Kf8 5.fxe8Q+ Kxe8 6.Rxf3 Nxc2 > = (0.22) Depth: 9/23 00:00:00 506kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Kf8 3.Nxg4 hxg4 4.b5 Rd5 5.bxc6 bxc6 6.Bb4+ c5 7.c4 > = (0.09) Depth: 10/26 00:00:00 1105kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Kf8 3.Nf5 Rd5 4.Bxf3 Rxf5 5.Bxg4 Rxf1+ 6.Kxf1 hxg4 7.Ke2 > = (0.19) Depth: 11/28 00:00:01 2425kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Kf8 3.Nf5 Bxg2 4.Kxg2 Re6 5.Ng7 Red6 6.Kg1 Ne3 > = (0.09) Depth: 12/31 00:00:03 5846kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Kf8 3.Nf5 Bxg2 4.Kxg2 Re6 5.Ng7 Red6 6.Kg1 Ne3 > = (0.12) Depth: 13/31 00:00:07 12081kN >1...Ng4 2.f6 Kf8 3.Nf5 Bxg2 4.f7 Re5 5.Kxg2 Rxf5 6.g7+ Kxf7 7.Rxf5+ > = (0.25) Depth: 14/32 00:00:14 23676kN >1...Ng4-- > ² (0.56) Depth: 15/31 00:00:31 50023kN >1...Ng4-- > ² (0.56) Depth: 15/40 00:00:46 75440kN >1...b5! > ² (0.53) Depth: 15/40 00:01:20 127381kN >1...b5! 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 Kg7 5.g4 hxg4 6.Nxg4 Re2 7.Nf2 > = (0.19) Depth: 15/40 00:01:28 140330kN >1...b5 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 Kg7 5.g4 hxg4 6.Nxg4 Re2 7.Nf2 > = (0.22) Depth: 16/35 00:02:08 203032kN >1...b5 2.Bxf3 exf3 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxf3 Kg7 5.g4 hxg4 6.Nxg4 Re2 7.Nf2 > = (0.19) Depth: 17/40 00:03:53 373756kN > >(W, 17.04.2002) > > > clearing hash tables > time surplus 0.00 time limit 5:00 (5:00) > nss depth time score variation (1) >starting thread 1 > 6 0.14 -0.06 1. ... c5 2. bxc5 Kf8 3. Bxe5 Rxe5 > 4. Bxf3 exf3 5. Rxf3 Rxc5 > 6 0.15 -0.27 1. ... Kf8 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. f6 Bxg2 > 4. g7+ Kf7 5. Kxg2 > (3) 6-> 0.18 -0.27 1. ... Kf8 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. f6 Bxg2 > 4. g7+ Kf7 5. Kxg2 > (2) 7 0.26 -0.44 1. ... Kf8 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. Bxf3 exf3 > 4. Rxf3 Kg7 5. g4 h4 > 7 0.39 -0.50 1. ... b5 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. Bxf3 exf3 > 4. Rxf3 Kg7 5. g4 h4 > (2) 7-> 0.39 -0.50 1. ... b5 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. Bxf3 exf3 > 4. Rxf3 Kg7 5. g4 h4 > 8 0.53 -0.17 1. ... b5 2. Bxf3 exf3 3. Bxe5 Rxe5 > 4. Rxf3 Kg7 5. g4 Rde8 6. Kf2 <HT> > 8-> 0.78 -0.17 1. ... b5 2. Bxf3 exf3 3. Bxe5 Rxe5 > 4. Rxf3 Kg7 5. g4 Rde8 6. Kf2 <HT> > 9 1.39 -0.53 1. ... b5 2. Kf2 Ng4+ 3. Nxg4 hxg4 > 4. f6 Kf8 5. Kg1 Bxg2 6. Kxg2 e3 7. > Rf5 > 9-> 1.50 -0.53 1. ... b5 2. Kf2 Ng4+ 3. Nxg4 hxg4 > 4. f6 Kf8 5. Kg1 Bxg2 6. Kxg2 e3 7. > Rf5 > 10 1.95 -0.46 1. ... b5 2. Kf2 Ng4+ 3. Nxg4 hxg4 > 4. f6 Kf8 5. Re1 Bxg2 6. Kxg2 e3 7. > Re2 Re4 > 10-> 2.53 -0.46 1. ... b5 2. Kf2 Ng4+ 3. Nxg4 hxg4 > 4. f6 Kf8 5. Re1 Bxg2 6. Kxg2 e3 7. > Re2 Re4 > 11 3.59 -0.20 1. ... b5 2. Kf2 Ng4+ 3. Nxg4 hxg4 > 4. f6 e3+ 5. Kg1 Re6 6. Bxf3 gxf3 7. > Rxf3 Kf8 8. Kf1 Re4 > 11 7.76 -0.36 1. ... Kf8 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. Bxf3 exf3 > 4. Rxf3 Kg7 5. g4 hxg4 6. Nxg4 Rd1+ > 7. Kh2 Rd2+ 8. Kg3 Ree2 > (3) 11-> 8.40 -0.36 1. ... Kf8 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. Bxf3 exf3 > 4. Rxf3 Kg7 5. g4 hxg4 6. Nxg4 Rd1+ > 7. Kh2 Rd2+ 8. Kg3 Ree2 > (2) 12 10.12 -0.19 1. ... Kf8 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. Bxf3 exf3 > 4. Rxf3 Kg7 5. g4 h4 6. g5 Rd2 7. Rf2 > Rd4 8. Rf3 > (2) 12-> 16.04 -0.19 1. ... Kf8 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. Bxf3 exf3 > 4. Rxf3 Kg7 5. g4 h4 6. g5 Rd2 7. Rf2 > Rd4 8. Rf3 > 13 48.07 -0.05 1. ... Kf8 2. Re1 b5 3. Bxf3 Nxf3+ > 4. Kf2 Nxe1 5. Kxe1 Ke7 6. f6+ Ke6 > 7. f7 Rf8 8. Bg7 Ke7 9. Bxf8+ Kxf8 > (2) 13-> 1:22 -0.05 1. ... Kf8 2. Re1 b5 3. Bxf3 Nxf3+ > 4. Kf2 Nxe1 5. Kxe1 Ke7 6. f6+ Ke6 > 7. f7 Rf8 8. Bg7 Ke7 9. Bxf8+ Kxf8 > 14 1:49 -0.19 1. ... Kf8 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. Bxf3 exf3 > 4. Rxf3 c5 5. b5 Kg7 6. g4 h4 7. g5 > Rd2 8. Rf2 Rd4 9. Rf3 > (2) 14-> 2:31 -0.19 1. ... Kf8 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. Bxf3 exf3 > 4. Rxf3 c5 5. b5 Kg7 6. g4 h4 7. g5 > Rd2 8. Rf2 Rd4 9. Rf3 > 15 3:16 -0.20 1. ... Kf8 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. Bxf3 exf3 > 4. Rxf3 Kg7 5. g4 hxg4 6. Nxg4 Re2 > 7. Rf2 Rdd2 8. Rxe2 Rxe2 9. c3 Rc2 > 10. Ne5 Rxc3 > (3) 15-> 4:52 -0.20 1. ... Kf8 2. Bxe5 Rxe5 3. Bxf3 exf3 > 4. Rxf3 Kg7 5. g4 hxg4 6. Nxg4 Re2 > 7. Rf2 Rdd2 8. Rxe2 Rxe2 9. c3 Rc2 > 10. Ne5 Rxc3 > time=5:00 cpu=214% mat=-1 n=493704758 fh=90% nps=1644k > ext-> chk=15402349 cap=2148800 pp=3880716 1rep=725371 mate=40797 s >ing=0 > predicted=0 nodes=493704758 evals=0 > endgame tablebase-> probes done=0 successful=0 > hashing-> trans/ref=25% pawn=99% used=99% > SMP-> split=1654 stop=287 data=9/32 cpu=10:44 elap=5:00 Good Lord, your machine is fast, fast, fast! What is it -- I think I saw one of your posts about this but can't quite remember, something like 2x1.7 GHz Athlon? It seems roughly 6x as quick as PIII-850 with Junior 7 (assuming Deep Junior 7 is much the same program), whereas I would have guessed only 4x. The Shredder analysis was strange -- I guess this is the only program that improves on slower hardware! Supporting this, there was a post by Nemeth that Shredder did not play the awful moves that led to its dismal defeat by Smirin on his slower system. And then there's Crafty; every time I see it fail at a tactical problem, I gain greater respect for its positional abilities, since this MUST be the way it stays at the top (versus other non-professional programs, that is). Rightly or wrongly, DB rejected Deep Fritz's eventual choice of 36...b5 after reaching depth 11(6) -- this had been DB's move at depth 10(6) [whatever that means; 16 full-width? 10 full, 6 selective? 10 with a selective component plus 6 full-width?]. Regards, Vine Smith
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