Author: Uri Blass
Date: 22:34:24 04/17/02
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On April 17, 2002 at 23:19:13, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 17, 2002 at 01:30:44, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On April 16, 2002 at 22:39:31, Allen Lake wrote: >> >>>On April 16, 2002 at 12:52:53, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>My prediction is based on how well the Special opening book could have been >>>>prepared. If Jeroen did a serious research on the winning percentage that GM >>>>Smirin have with a certain opening and a loosing percentage as well, then the >>>>rest should be fine for Chess Tiger. I also believe the the Deep Junior team >>>>did a good research on what opening to use against GM Smirin. That at least will >>>>get Deep Junior and Chess Tiger out of trouble in the first 12 moves. Also the >>>>CB Opening book should NOT be Used since GM Smirin has access to them. >>>> >>> >>>If it is okay (or even desirable) for the Tiger and Junior teams to use >>>published games to prepare anti-Smirin opening books for this match, why isn't >>>it okay for Mr. Smirin to use the Chessbase opening book to prepare anti-program opening lines for himself in this match? >> >>It is ok for smirin to use the chessbase opening book to prepare but it is also >>okay for the programmers to change the opening book. >> >> Is it, perhaps, that his _superior_ >>>knowledge of chess theory might provide him with the ability to find advantages >>>in subtle positions which cannot be calculated away by a state-of-the-art >>>computer program running on a modern computer system? If so, how is that an >>>unfair advantage for Mr. Smirin? After all, he has probably devoted at least as >>>many man-hours in developing that judgement as the programmers of the engines >>>have devoted in creating their powerful search and evaluation algorithms. >>> >>>If giving a GM access to the opening book of a chess program is detrimental to >>>the success of that program against the GM, doesn't that say enough about how >>>far away the programmers are from actually equalling the ability of that GM? >>> >>>My two cents worth. >> >>If giving a GM access to the opening book of a program is fair then it is also >>fair to give the humans who play against smirin all the information about the >>opening preperations of smirin before he play against them. >> >>I think that chess is a game that nobody should know the opening preperation of >>the opponent. >> >>You can also ask the following question: >>If humans need unfair means like getting the opening book and the opening >>preperation of the opponents(something that they never get against humans), >>does not this say enough about how far GM's are from actually equalling the >>ability of computers? >> >>Uri > > >No. Human GM players prepart specific lines for their GM opponents _all_ _the_ >_time_. Traps. Swindles. theoretical novelties. Etc... They have many opponents and I am sure that if they use more time to prepare against smirin then smirin is going to get worse results. Uri
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